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Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:52 pm
by Sam.
Popcorn Jack wrote:What's your personal opinion on the profile kit?
Has me curious but not sure to spend the dough

PJ


I make the GlenFeddich knock off from the kit and I actually do rate it :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Need something to drink while the rest of my gear is oaking :D

Now I just buy all the little bottles I need and mix them all up into a bottle then when I need to mix a batch I know to add whatever amount to the nuetrel, saves a lot of rooting around adding little bits of this and that.

The good thing about the kit is you can tailor it to your own taste to a fair degree.

Yeah dont buy the whole kit, check out their recipes and see what bottles you need. I still have half of the kit in full bottles that I have never opened :angry-banghead:

Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:59 am
by Popcorn Jack
Thanks for that just saved me some money..
Going to look up recipes. Been partial to a Canadian rye wiskey called crown royal.

PJ

TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:28 am
by Sam.
They have a recipe for a rye style I reckon

Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:17 am
by crow
Yeah look I haven't had very many of the essences to be honest just don't go much on them but I keep some on had to tweek some flavours and splash in neutral ifen I get desperate but one I do have here that is really crap is rye, I know oils ain't oils so I'll find it and post the brand of the offending stuff

Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 6:29 pm
by Popcorn Jack
My TPW has just cleared and I put it into a demijohn to show you haw clear I got it but you think I can figure out how to post a pic..never mind

PJ

Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:03 am
by akkanomore
I use TPW all the time but can't see how some people are getting 2.6 litres @ 94% . I get at best 1.2 litres @ 94 - 95% after taking 150ml fores and stopping when it tastes like tails. Interested to know what others are getting.
Cheers,
Alan

Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:33 pm
by Professor Green
Are you sure you don't have a vapour leak? What volume of wash and are you running and what is the ABV?

Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:43 pm
by Tesla101
akkanomore wrote:I use TPW all the time but can't see how some people are getting 2.6 litres @ 94% . I get at best 1.2 litres @ 94 - 95% after taking 150ml fores and stopping when it tastes like tails. Interested to know what others are getting.
Cheers,
Alan


Hi Alan, are you doing a stripping run first? If so, how much low wines are you starting with and at what %abv are you starting at?

I generally get about 6L at about 40% from a stripping run out of a 25L TPW that was about 11%.

I then dilute the low wines down to about 10L if I don't combine low wines from other stripping runs. Out of that I'll get about 2.5L of 91-93% for the spirit run.

Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:53 pm
by akkanomore
Got a 25 litre wash. Run it through the T500 and get 1200 mls @ 94 - 95%.. Maybe I should leave it go. I just taste it after 1200 mls and it doesn't have the burn and thought it was tails coming in. Temp is about 40 degrees. I only do one run and don't keep tails. Maybe I am missing out on a lot.

Alan

Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:12 pm
by akkanomore
Ok here is an update. I just did a run of TPW today 25 litre wash, and instead of stopping at 1200 mls I let it go and stripped it off at between 52 - 55 degrees. Got 2.8 litres @ 95 percent... gonna water it down and do a spirit run at about 45 degrees. Is that a better way to do it? God knows how much grog I have thrown out over 3 years.. :crying-blue: Oh well you live and learn.

Cheers,
Alan

Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 5:04 pm
by Birdman85
akkanomore wrote:Ok here is an update. I just did a run of TPW today 25 litre wash, and instead of stopping at 1200 mls I let it go and stripped it off at between 52 - 55 degrees. Got 2.8 litres @ 95 percent... gonna water it down and do a spirit run at about 45 degrees. Is that a better way to do it? God knows how much grog I have thrown out over 3 years.. :crying-blue: Oh well you live and learn.

Cheers,
Alan


That's usually how much I get. I toss the first 300-400 to be safe and usually get 2.4 or so before it starts tailin

Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:32 pm
by Tesla101
akkanomore wrote:Ok here is an update. I just did a run of TPW today 25 litre wash, and instead of stopping at 1200 mls I let it go and stripped it off at between 52 - 55 degrees. Got 2.8 litres @ 95 percent... gonna water it down and do a spirit run at about 45 degrees. Is that a better way to do it? God knows how much grog I have thrown out over 3 years.. :crying-blue: Oh well you live and learn.

Cheers,
Alan


Hi Alan,

I find it helps if I do the maths.

Say I have a 25L wash and after it fermented out I calculated the alcohol content of the wash to be 11.5%. 25 x 11.5% is 2.875, so the maximum amount of alcohol in the wash is 2.875L.

If I then distill the wash and averaged 95% abv, then 2.875 x 95% is 2.73L. So I should get something close to 2.73L. In reality I'll get a bit less because a T500 isn't that efficient, but I'd certainly expect a lot more than 1.2L :-B

Also, I don't run my T500 by temperature - especially during a spirit run. As WJ has said in his thread Running the T500, the Proper Way it's better to run it with an output flow rate of drip, drip, dribble, drip...

Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:57 am
by EziTasting
I don’t run a T500, but I have always ended up with 10% of the fermented volume @95%... I tend (now) to be far more selective so don’t end up using the whole 10%, but it is useful as a guide to me.

But Tesla showed you how you can figure out what to expect... I just find atPW to be so solid that I don’t worry about the calf’s any more.

Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:16 am
by db1979
akkanomore wrote:Ok here is an update. I just did a run of TPW today 25 litre wash, and instead of stopping at 1200 mls I let it go and stripped it off at between 52 - 55 degrees. Got 2.8 litres @ 95 percent... gonna water it down and do a spirit run at about 45 degrees. Is that a better way to do it? God knows how much grog I have thrown out over 3 years.. :crying-blue: Oh well you live and learn.

Cheers,
Alan

High quality hearts shouldn't have a "burn". You've probably been stopping at hearts and only collecting heads.

Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:41 am
by wynnum1
How about putting alcohol from previous run back into next to to increase available alcohol % have put first 1 litre even what you are throwing out .

Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 3:18 pm
by Zappa Loo
How do you guys know when it gets to tails?

Re: 25l TPW wash....
I have always done the following:

1st 200ml = discard
Next 500ml = heads
next 3.5l = hearts
whatever comes after that = tails

Note: Usually stops about 3L into hearts.

Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:35 pm
by The Stig
Never work by numbers because no two runs will be the same.
Use taste, smell and touch

Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:41 pm
by db1979
The Stig wrote:Never work by numbers because no two runs will be the same.
Use taste, smell and touch

:text-+1: tails is easy compared to heads. Smell is usually enough. Taste is pretty yuck too.

Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:24 am
by fox
Hey guys, just read through this thread and I saw that someone cleared a TPW with Glycerin and water. I ran my first two batches of TPW on the weekend and didn't use any clearing agent as I thought the TPW cleared itself. Is this correct? Cheers

Re: TPW vs SS Turbos, my results

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:36 am
by bluc
Lots here dont use clearing agents me included :handgestures-thumbupleft: