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Re: Wheat Vodka
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Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:42 amby brisvalleymoonshiner
bluc wrote:I just sent a message also asking about their catalouge and price on cheap base malt in 100kg 150kg and 200kg shipped to sunny coast..later found the catalouge on their site they do barret burston and waymeran amongst others :handgestures-thumbupleft: will post back when I hear..if they are shipping bulk grain all over the place they may have some decent deals on freight..
Heres the aus catalouge
Cryer_Malt_catalogue_Aus_lowres.pdf.zip
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Re: Wheat Vodka
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Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:38 pmby brisvalleymoonshiner
bluc wrote:Maris Otter bulk bags at 1000kg. We have nothing smaller sorry. $1,365 per tonne which is about 30% discount off list price. Just a monthly special if you reckon you can get through this much between you and your mates?
Freight would be another $200 though as we have nothing currently in Brisbane.
200 freight aint bad on a ton. 5 way split 200kg each 313 each landed gympie 8-}
May need to buy a pig to eat all the spent grain can you keep a pig in surburbia?
Price wise it really aint bad and will maybe look at this at some point..
Just checked on a local HBS store's website and they sell Maris Otter for $85/25kg bag :scared-eek:
So if you managed to wrangle up enough people this would be very cheap considering HBS prices
And if you offer the neighbours some pork for keeping quiet about the pig it could be a good trade off :laughing-rolling:
Re: Wheat Vodka
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Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:42 pmby bluc
Lol
Re: Wheat Vodka
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Sun May 05, 2019 5:30 pmby brisvalleymoonshiner
Righto I've had a go at Ian's recipe and fuck me its a disaster. Followed it to the letter. Did an iodine test and no conversion happened. Had an sg reading of 1030 which is low compared to the required 1060 in the instructions. Plus it built up pressure and foamed all over the place. Must mention the vomit smell it's produced fu#&in rank. Added 6kgs of sugar to get sg to 1060 pitched a wheat yeast and put the lid on and walked away confused. Any of you All Grain gurus point me in the right direction i'd be 1 happy chappy.
Re: Wheat Vodka
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Sun May 05, 2019 6:30 pmby Wobblyboot
brisvalleymoonshiner wrote:Righto I've had a go at Ian's recipe and fuck me its a disaster. Followed it to the letter. Did an iodine test and no conversion happened. Had an sg reading of 1030 which is low compared to the required 1060 in the instructions. Plus it built up pressure and foamed all over the place. Must mention the vomit smell it's produced fu#&in rank. Added 6kgs of sugar to get sg to 1060 pitched a wheat yeast and put the lid on and walked away confused. Any of you All Grain gurus point me in the right direction i'd be 1 happy chappy.
What kinda wheat did u use?
Re: Wheat Vodka
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Sun May 05, 2019 6:43 pmby brisvalleymoonshiner
That i do not know. Got it locally off wastebook market place
Re: Wheat Vodka
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Sun May 05, 2019 7:39 pmby Wobblyboot
U missed the part in recipe where it said to use flaked wheat? U had no malt (=no enzyme) in there to convert the starch into sugar.
Re: Wheat Vodka
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Sun May 05, 2019 7:42 pmby brisvalleymoonshiner
i did grind it to a flour may be i grinded it too much. And i di add a wheat liquid malt from the HBS
Re: Wheat Vodka
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Sun May 05, 2019 7:42 pmby Wobblyboot
Malt extract?
Re: Wheat Vodka
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Sun May 05, 2019 9:57 pmby brisvalleymoonshiner
liquid wheat malt extract from the HBS 1.5kgs
Re: Wheat Vodka
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Sun May 05, 2019 10:05 pmby Wobblyboot
brisvalleymoonshiner wrote:liquid wheat malt extract from the HBS 1.5kgs
As far as I know, there no enzymes left in that after the extraction process, the heat kills them off. U need malted wheat grains.
Re: Wheat Vodka
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Mon May 06, 2019 7:02 amby brisvalleymoonshiner
:angry-banghead: better start again
Re: Wheat Vodka
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Mon May 06, 2019 8:59 amby bluc
Or enzymes :handgestures-thumbupleft:
Re: Wheat Vodka
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Mon May 06, 2019 9:18 amby brisvalleymoonshiner
i forgot to mention i did add a dry enzyme in the cooking process. I thought liquid malt just didn't give as much alcohol as it contains more water. Went and looked this morning and it has alot of foam on top. My main concern is the vomit smell. If this manages to ferment out how do you tell if the wash is no good
Re: Wheat Vodka
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Mon May 06, 2019 10:08 amby bluc
Vomit smell is caused by butyric acid a small amount is normal. I know some infection will raise the level of it as will stressing the yeast.You can run it but you will get esters forming. Pineapple I belive. You should be able to seperate it out during your cuts process...(or keep it in if you like it, )
Re: Wheat Vodka
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Mon May 06, 2019 10:09 amby bluc
What enzyme did you use?
Re: Wheat Vodka
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Mon May 06, 2019 10:52 amby brisvalleymoonshiner
i used a glucoamylase and a wheat yeast
Re: Wheat Vodka
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Mon May 06, 2019 11:25 amby bluc
Glucoamylse will give you some conversion. But you really need at least alpha amalyse. Preferably a combo of alpha/beta amylase and glucoamylse..
Re: Wheat Vodka
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Mon May 06, 2019 11:55 amby brisvalleymoonshiner
oh well i'll let it ferment out and see what we end up with. Next time i might try and malt some wheat and see how that goes
Re: Wheat Vodka
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Mon May 06, 2019 7:42 pmby Wobblyboot
I’d recommend buying the malted grain to start with. I paid $50 for 25kg sack of malted wheat last week.