Glass Carboy!

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Glass Carboy!

Postby victorski » Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:26 pm

Howdy, everyone! I've purchased two glass 23L carboys with taps from an online shop, it stated that they can be used to store wine and spirits.
I recieved them today and noticed they have plastic taps with some rubber/sillicon (I thought they might be brass since they said safe for spirits).

Has anyone had any experience with these? I wanted ones with taps to store my spirits and make it easy to transfer them to smaller bottles, but if there not safe i'll have to let them know and go through the effort of sending them back and getting a refund :handgestures-thumbdown:

Cheers,
Victor
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Re: Glass Carboy!

Postby maheel » Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:54 pm

dont now what they cost you but saw these and thought of you

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Jerry-Can-St ... 231c6a2a3b
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Re: Glass Carboy!

Postby victorski » Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:28 pm

Cheers maheel, they look great (I love the look of glass though, can see the spirits inside :) ) They cost me $85 each with free postage. I contacted the company and they said they have raised the same concerns with the manufacturer in Italy, apparently they have assured that they are 100% safe to store spirits... anyone else keen to give some insight ?

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Re: Glass Carboy!

Postby stubbydrainer » Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:37 pm

5L Demijohns you get from the HBS have a plastic stopper and some sort of silicon/teflon seal, I dont have any worries about them !!
Has any body else thought about it ??
if it is bottle strength I would say it would be no worries ! I have 94% abv :shock: and some with 65 % abv some at bottle strength in my 5L demi's
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Re: Glass Carboy!

Postby QLD.Andy » Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:11 pm

victorski wrote:Howdy, everyone! I've purchased two glass 23L carboys with taps from an online shop,

Give us a link Vic
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Re: Glass Carboy!

Postby victorski » Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:45 am

Ya I see what you mean stubs but the alcohol is not always in contact with the lid ;) I was hoping to store 95% vodka in one and 65% UJSM in the other! Here's the link

http://www.aussiebrewmakers.com.au/reta ... _item.html

Hopefully it should be right, the manufacturer changed them from SS to plastic 1 year ago and I'm not the first person to raise concerns so surely if they were defective they wouldnt be selling them for spirits ? The fitting comes with a thick silicon o-ring which the tap fits into to make a seal, I could keep an eye out for a brass or SS one to substitute...

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Re: Glass Carboy!

Postby R-sole » Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:04 am

What size is the hole?

I'd be looking to replace with a stainless ball valve as soon as possible.
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Re: Glass Carboy!

Postby victorski » Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:37 am

The hole in the glass is 18mm, the tap comes with what i suspect to be a thick silicon o-ring which has a hole that is 10mm. Might need a tap that is perhaps 11-12mm to ensure it makes a good seal. What a pain.... :angry-banghead:
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Re: Glass Carboy!

Postby R-sole » Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:45 am

You just need a bit of stainless or brass allthread the approx diameter and a couple of backing nuts and some silicon washers cut out of a baking dish or something. Screw a ballvalve on the end and yuo're laughing.

Hardest bit is putting the inside nut on. Or is the glass threaded?
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Re: Glass Carboy!

Postby victorski » Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:50 pm

Would bunnings stock hollow all thread and ball valves ?


MOD mistake Maheel: hey victorski, i am sorry i just edited you post a little by mistake as i clicked "edit" instead of "quote"
you had something about upsetting the wife cutting up her pot lids in here :)
sorry mate
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Re: Glass Carboy!

Postby audistiller » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:37 am

victorski wrote:Would bunnings stock hollow all thread and ball valves ?


Yeah I'm pretty sure they do have both.
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Re: Glass Carboy!

Postby R-sole » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:50 am

Usually a shop for engineering supplies in most large towns where you can get nuts and bolts and bearings and stuff.
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Re: Glass Carboy!

Postby maheel » Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:19 am

yes in the plumbing section but it is in brass

depending on how big the hole is etc a skin fitting in stainless from a boat chandlery might work with a teflon (maybe silicone) gasket

if you can get one through the neck of the bottle on a string to lower it in... ?

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Re: Glass Carboy!

Postby SBB » Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:40 pm

stubbydrainer wrote:5L Demijohns you get from the HBS have a plastic stopper and some sort of silicon/teflon seal, I dont have any worries about them !!
Has any body else thought about it ??

Draino....as far as Im aware those seals are made of some sort of rubber......and technicaly are probably not "spirit safe"
I was poking around today in our local HBS.....just sortta window shopping and I found these.
http://www.brewshop.co.nz/flip-top-silicone-seals.html
Apparently they are a silicone replacement for the original rubber seals......ive been wondering for some time why no one was making them......nearly suggested it to 5Star as another line. There are 60 in a pack and mine cost $7.50.....I noticed that the ones in the link above are $11+
Anyway next time Im out your way Ill give ya half this lot.
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Re: Glass Carboy!

Postby R-sole » Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:12 pm

We couldn't beat 60 for $12 thats for sure.
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Re: Glass Carboy!

Postby victorski » Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:36 pm

Great idea maheel, looks simple enough :handgestures-thumbupleft: I might try to do that, the hole in the glass is 18mm but where would I buy one of those fittings from ? I tryed a local bunnings but they didn't have it :( also I had my heart set on having a tap, do they make small tap fittings at that size ? Mate SBB, I hate those rubber o-rings! They stink, does you LHBS sell them online or is that the link you posted?
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Re: Glass Carboy!

Postby SBB » Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:43 pm

Nope our local doesnt sell online as far as Im aware...........you might just have to look around a bit for them.
Just dug around and found this...you could contact them and ask.
probably just as easy to source them localy and not have to pay postage.
2/ 76 Conway St, Lismore NSW 2480, Australia
Phone number(02) 6622 8448
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Re: Glass Carboy!

Postby stubbydrainer » Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:01 pm

SBB wrote:Anyway next time Im out your way Ill give ya half this lot.


beauty, thx,
I saw ya cruiser out the front of the HBS today, reckon ya were snoopin' :laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling:
or were ya buyin' essence ?? :naughty:
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Re: Glass Carboy!

Postby MacStill » Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:10 pm

victorski wrote:Would bunnings stock hollow all thread and ball valves ?


MOD mistake Maheel: hey victorski, i am sorry i just edited you post a little by mistake as i clicked "edit" instead of "quote"
you had something about upsetting the wife cutting up her pot lids in here :)
sorry mate



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Re: Glass Carboy!

Postby SBB » Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:29 pm

stubbydrainer wrote:or were ya buyin' essence ?? :naughty:

To coin a phrase from "learn the lingo"................get rooted ya ratbag.
Ya coulda dropped in to say G'day....after all the shiela behind the counter only sold me the silicone rings cheap cause she knew I was your mate. :teasing-tease: :teasing-tease:
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