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Rolled and Coated Barley as Animal Feed - Worth trying???

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 9:37 am
by Desert Oak
Hi all,

Wondering if anyone has used 'Rolled & COATED Barley' before...

I saw this at the animal feed place.

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Unmalted I'm guessing. The 'oil' factor is also throwing me off but the added molasses has me intrigued.

Would love to know more details on the product but the feed store really don't like distillers. Hung up on me twice!

Anyone out there ever used/tried it before?

Cheers.

Re: Rolled and Coated Barley as Animal Feed - Worth trying??

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:06 am
by bluc
I wouldnt use it because of the added oil.

Re: Rolled and Coated Barley as Animal Feed - Worth trying??

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:32 pm
by renedox
Might depend on the amount of oil. Read/Saw somewhere that butter/oil can be used in fermentation similar to distillation - in controlling boilovers - so tried it with the stuff I'm currently fermenting and everything seems to be happy and going as expected. I used about two tablespoons of butter in about 12L of wash

Re: Rolled and Coated Barley as Animal Feed - Worth trying??

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 3:42 pm
by The Stig
You can add butter or oil to the boiler , never heard of anybody adding oil to the fermenter

Re: Rolled and Coated Barley as Animal Feed - Worth trying??

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 4:54 pm
by Wellsy
Shame it is not branded as that would enable you to get a specs sheet on what is in it.
Obviously they don’t sell on commission as a sale is a sale

Re: Rolled and Coated Barley as Animal Feed - Worth trying??

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 8:44 pm
by indenial
"Low oxygen" beer brewers add olive oil to their fermenation as a substitute for oxygenating their wort /wash.
Thr brulosophy guys did an experiment on it.
https://brulosophy.com/2020/01/27/impac ... t-results/
Who knows what oil you have though???

Re: Rolled and Coated Barley as Animal Feed - Worth trying??

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2022 2:00 am
by RC Al
Buy rolled barely - (try a different store?)
Add your own molly

Do remember what we do is illegal, civic/social morality of the feed place's employees aside, perhaps they don't want to be held liable for you consuming animal grade produce ? We know we are 99.999% ok using it, they dont

Re: Rolled and Coated Barley as Animal Feed - Worth trying??

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:14 am
by Desert Oak
@ Welsey

It's from Lauke Mills which is a chain of animal feed places. Unfortunately they were not very helpful and couldn't give me any specs on it.

@ RC Al

Wish I could. Small piss-ant town in the middle of nowhere.

Re: Rolled and Coated Barley as Animal Feed - Worth trying??

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 10:00 am
by bluc
Some oils can affect flavour also..

Re: Rolled and Coated Barley as Animal Feed - Worth trying??

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 2:57 pm
by gad

Re: Rolled and Coated Barley as Animal Feed - Worth trying??

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 3:15 pm
by Wellsy
Nice find Gad

Re: Rolled and Coated Barley as Animal Feed - Worth trying??

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 3:24 pm
by Desert Oak
I've added it to my grain bill and have it in a 60L fermenter. Let's see how this goes...

Re: Rolled and Coated Barley as Animal Feed - Worth trying??

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 3:44 pm
by Wellsy
Good luck mate

Re: Rolled and Coated Barley as Animal Feed - Worth trying??

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 3:51 pm
by Desert Oak
1.065 SG which I'm very happy with. Time will tell if the oils have any effect on the ferment.
Happy to update when the time comes.

Re: Rolled and Coated Barley as Animal Feed - Worth trying??

PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:23 pm
by harold01
Desert Oak wrote:1.065 SG which I'm very happy with. Time will tell if the oils have any effect on the ferment.
Happy to update when the time comes.


Has the time came yet, curious to know how it came out.

Re: Rolled and Coated Barley as Animal Feed - Worth trying??

PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:58 pm
by Desert Oak
Yes, Harold! Overdue for an update.

It fermented out quite dry (0.960) which was great. No issues with the ferment or distillation. I fermented off grain but would be keen to try it on grain to see if it imparts any more flavour.

I have since used it again in another recipe with some changes.
If anyone is thinking of using this product or something similar, I would recommend the following...

Toast the grain a little. It helped to dry it out more and release some of the molasses. It will grind a whole lot easier as well. Although it's already rolled, it's not fine enough to really get value from it.

Try smoking it. I smoked 6kg with some Hickory and it came through in the final product. Because this stuff is really cheap, it's nice to experiment with.

In conclusion, I found the oil made no difference at all. After talking to a horse person, they said that the oil is added to simply keep dust down and not as a nutritional supplement.

Hope this helps.