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Whole corn

PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 5:56 am
by B-Man
I was planning on doing a corn mash with the yellow angel yeast and ordered in some cracked maize.
I just assumed it was what I was after and only realised when pouring it in the supplied me with whole corn.
Is the angel yeast going to work? Or do I have to turn it into a ujssm and add sugar?

Re: Whole corn

PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 6:35 am
by chipboy
Wont do much in a short time of one ferment, when emptying leave behind grain / yeast in fermenter, top up and go again it might improve as time passes. Do not leave it exposed simply cover with clean water and reseal between batches. That's my thoughts. Cracked worked better in this scenario in my tests.

Re: Whole corn

PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:35 am
by bluc
I would have it cracked at least for angel..

Re: Whole corn

PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:52 pm
by B-Man
It doesn't look like it's doing anything temp is just dropping.
I'll add some sugar and see what it does. Will I need to add nutrients?

Re: Whole corn

PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 5:05 pm
by bluc
If angel is working there will be a thick cap on top of grain..

Re: Whole corn

PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:18 pm
by B-Man
No thick cap just looks like the river murry.

Re: Whole corn

PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:47 am
by indenial
I have no experience with angel yellow label, but isn't there a need to gelatinise the corn?

Re: Whole corn

PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:49 am
by The Stig
indenial wrote:I have no experience with angel yellow label, but isn't there a need to gelatinise the corn?

No , that’s what Angel yeast is all about , no cooking required

Re: Whole corn

PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:45 pm
by B-Man
added some sugar and it started fermenting.
This angel yeast goes alot harder than lowan bread yeast. ended up doing 20kg of sugar in 125L water. if this finished out lower than the TFFV I do at .992 then its faster than the TFFV and will give me more abv.

Re: Whole corn

PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 4:40 pm
by indenial
The Stig wrote:
indenial wrote:I have no experience with angel yellow label, but isn't there a need to gelatinise the corn?

No , that’s what Angel yeast is all about , no cooking required

Ok, I remember the premise. Maybe it's just the fact that water has difficulty accessing the starch in a whole corn kernel, so that magic fairy dust in the yeast can't go to work???