Aussiedistiller, Home Distilling, Moonshine, Home Brew

Tragic story about the safety of high proof liquor. Personally I can see no good reason for the sale of 190 proof liquor. I would never serve it and I'd not drink it. Sure we all put a drop on the tongue during distillation but its hardly half a litre.

http://www.news.com.au/national/perth-t ... 7125182028

Limoncello, tinctures, bitters, etc etc etc. There are a million perfectly good, safe uses for a bottle of azeo, drinking it straight is not one of them.

such a tragic event..

comes as a good warning though..
I just put my azeo in the fuel cupbord in the shed because I am a bachelor and often have people around, often there is some stupidity and little supervision on my behalf

I feel if you need azeo don't store it as alcohol....... keep it away from temptation/ stupidity of others

Quite right Meaty, it is a poison and should be treated and labeled as such ;-)

I have a mate who did half a shot before I could stop him of some 93% product that I had ready to go into a Lemoncello maceration at the time

He will never do that again, all my jars are clearly labelled and its very rare I have high proof stored.

Its not the spirits fault people are stupid enough to drink it straight

Just like guns dont kill people, people kill people

A friend of mine got a litre of 50% vodka off me about a week ago and I explained to water it down more when drinking or use less when mixing it and they got quite drunk off it but they didnt drink it straight or to excess

Not sure if I agree about it causing her to die as 2 shots of 95% is what 4-6 standard drinks? How much else had she had to drink before hand
(sure it was a factor but not the main cause) and I am pretty sure once you have one shot of that stuff you won't want another one

The fact she didn't vomit is interesting as I find personally if I shoot anything above about 70% I vomit straight away (maybe I am a pansy)

During my younger days I consummed 60standard drinks over 6hours and I didn't get alcohol poisoning but looking back on it, I call myself stupid and I know differnt people can handle different amounts but come on

Rather then blame the Alcohol why not look at the cause of why she drank it ie the peer pressure

Sounds like they are just making a scape goat

I mean F**k its 95% common sense would dictate that its dangerous

End rant

My mates and i normally get a bottle of this on one of our bdays have a swig of bundy out of the tin and pour a shot in it makes a 5 drink tin pretty hectic normally a messy night there is a warnin on the bottle sayin that its used for cleaning and medical purposes

a 30ml shot = 2.8 standard drinks

tryed to take a pic i still have the bottle from my 30th

we used to drink it in shots 25ml + 5ml of grenadine is a flamin benny

Very sad indeed. Never knew you could buy that in a liquor shop, what a stupid thing to sell as a "beverage". :violence-stickwhack:

So tragic and only a suburb away from where I live, what a terrible thing to happen.

I cant believe you can buy 95% alcohol from a bottle shop & there's not a lot more incidents reported about it.

My bubcha had this in her cupboard when I was a teenager and we used to take a nip or two to add to our 3L thirst tanker rocket fuel we'd make up. No one ever got sick from it as we knew the strength was deadly if abused.

Thing is who let her take shots of it? 18th birthday party... If it was my daughter I'd be there and watching like a hawk.

Sad story nonetheless and I agree it needs to be removed from the shelf or laws need to change to reflect %ABV sold to under 21's I believe very few are smart enough pre 20's

Its just far too easy for things to go wrong quickly.

I note the vendor has removed it from the shelves and i commend them.

Either way i could not imagine it was a fast mover.

something is not right here that's for sure, there's no way anyone could drink half a bottle of 95% :naughty: 1 x 15ml nip of 93% I just tried and fark me I'm still sooking 15 minutes later :angry-banghead:

Such a tragic end to a beautiful young girls life, but somehow I get the feeling the press hasn't told the whole story & are focusing on todays binge drinking and the harm it can cause to our younger generation...... ie. using it as an example and such.

Lost for words

Mac.

Can't stop thinking about this, what a very sad and tragic story. Who the fcuk decides they should be selling a 95% alc/vol to the public in a bottleshop ? You didn't take it off the shelves quick enough idiots!

Sorry, didn't mean to rant :angry-banghead:

IMO :teasing-blah:
Simply denying adults access to items that are potentially dangerous is no solution, and no appropriate in a free society. If you treat people like children by removing any opportunity to make a decision for themselves, then children is what you'll get.
This story is a tragedy, but unlike the many others happening everyday it's got a solid hook for the media to sell.
I know when my kids are of an age to be thinking about alcohol they'll be fully aware of the dangers.

I'm with clickeral, I can't see how she didn't spew especially if she rarely drank alcohol :wtf:

It is a shame to loose a life so young but as some one that has drank and shot this drink it does mostly end in vomiting sometimes before the shot has made it all the way down

res wrote:IMO :teasing-blah:
Simply denying adults access to items that are potentially dangerous is no solution, and no appropriate in a free society. If you treat people like children by removing any opportunity to make a decision for themselves, then children is what you'll get.
This story is a tragedy, but unlike the many others happening everyday it's got a solid hook for the media to sell.
I know when my kids are of an age to be thinking about alcohol they'll be fully aware of the dangers.

If the story is correct, it is more than that! Would you buy a bottle of metho and a tin of boot polish because one of you 18 yo friends said it gave you a hit? When I was 19 some gave me a nip of Inner Circle OP rum (not sure if it still is available today) and being the 19 yo "man" I threw it down and have never touched rum again till I made Mac's rum. So the question remains, are 18 yo's capable of making an adult informed decision like oh, here is a bottle of 95% alcohol party starter, let's go? I really believe that some things don't need easy accessibility. Just my opinion.

Whiskyaugogo wrote:
If the story is correct, it is more than that! Would you buy a bottle of metho and a tin of boot polish because one of you 18 yo friends said it gave you a hit? When I was 19 some gave me a nip of Inner Circle OP rum (not sure if it still is available today) and being the 19 yo "man" I threw it down and have never touched rum again till I made Mac's rum. So the question remains, are 18 yo's capable of making an adult informed decision like oh, here is a bottle of 95% alcohol party starter, let's go? I really believe that some things don't need easy accessibility. Just my opinion.

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Whiskyaugogo wrote:

res wrote:IMO :teasing-blah:
Simply denying adults access to items that are potentially dangerous is no solution, and no appropriate in a free society. If you treat people like children by removing any opportunity to make a decision for themselves, then children is what you'll get.
This story is a tragedy, but unlike the many others happening everyday it's got a solid hook for the media to sell.
I know when my kids are of an age to be thinking about alcohol they'll be fully aware of the dangers.

If the story is correct, it is more than that! Would you buy a bottle of metho and a tin of boot polish because one of you 18 yo friends said it gave you a hit? When I was 19 some gave me a nip of Inner Circle OP rum (not sure if it still is available today) and being the 19 yo "man" I threw it down and have never touched rum again till I made Mac's rum. So the question remains, are 18 yo's capable of making an adult informed decision like oh, here is a bottle of 95% alcohol party starter, let's go? I really believe that some things don't need easy accessibility. Just my opinion.

Whether such products as this should be illegal is open to opinion, and certainly makes little difference to me. However I'm sure there is a market for it beyond teenage binge drinking, the same way there is a market for cars capable of speeds well beyond whats legal, or guns or any of the other huge number of things people can misuse.
The fact that I don't need it, or want it isn't sufficient reason to help deny it to all the other responsible people who do. Lots of things can kill or maim, in fact just about everything; the common component is us. Maybe you make good choices at eighteen or maybe you never will, what forum are we on here?? How we all feeling about that "life saving" law we're all burdened by??
I'm sure a quick google search would reveal many household items with dozens of deaths behind them x_x
I'll close with a classic quote

"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."
Martin Niemöller

A tragedy for sure I just think people that aren't involved in our hobby somehow understand the punch and danger of high proof alcohol , I remember my 18th and shots of store bought spirits took me to a place I'd never been before, I'm glad I didn't have access to the product in question at that age.

Whiskyaugogo wrote:So the question remains, are 18 yo's capable of making an adult informed decision like oh, here is a bottle of 95% alcohol party starter, let's go? I really believe that some things don't need easy accessibility. Just my opinion.

neurologically speaking persons aged 18 do not have a brain that has developed foresight and sound reasoning skills. at that age we are still "young and stupid" if you will. what needs to be considered is that this ability to firmly make rational and foresighted decisions, analysing consequences and rewards occurs when we are approximately 25 years of age. That being said would it be reasonable to ban the sale of all alcohol and tobacco products until the age of 25, only make marriage legal when we are 25, age of consent at 25, driver license at 25? i think everyone would agree that a society that treats 25 year old the same at 15 year olds would be non-functional. So i think making something illegal, that has a valid use, is an ludicrous notion.

considering the lethal dose of alcohol is 7g/kg, her "few shots" needs to be translated to she drunk a metric shit load and unfortunately passed away. should we not educate children how to deal with an intoxicated person, whether it be legal or illegal substance, and when the intervention of paramedics should be considered. Alcohol is, and always will be, part of our society, and IMO we should be focusing on interventions to educate, essentially on how to drink and have fun.