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res wrote:IMO :teasing-blah:
Simply denying adults access to items that are potentially dangerous is no solution, and no appropriate in a free society. If you treat people like children by removing any opportunity to make a decision for themselves, then children is what you'll get.
This story is a tragedy, but unlike the many others happening everyday it's got a solid hook for the media to sell.
I know when my kids are of an age to be thinking about alcohol they'll be fully aware of the dangers.

With all due respect we don't educate people on the dangers of drinking pure alcohol. Drinking yes.

Most of us would not expect this to be on the shelf. It's not a matter of personal responsibility but rather a public safety issue. I hate laws and regulations but sometimes I see a genuine need. This is one of those cases

I can't believe this shit is on shelves at local bottle shops.

Most people would have no idea what it is and that in itself makes it downright dangerous :handgestures-thumbdown:

Like I said earlier most people will throw 95% straight back up! your body doesn't wasn't that :handgestures-thumbdown:

All my high proof gear is locked in a fire locker, anything over 70% I class as poison :-B

Andy, Are you saying the LD50 is 7g per kg?

Found it Andy yep 7g/kg.
If I remember my studies nothing is a poison, same as everything is a poison. It is all to do with dose.

Sad time for family and friends. My thoughts are with them.

I do suspect that there is more to this story than the media is reporting on though.

apparently a blood alcohol reading of .400 is clinically dead, it would be very interesting to see the coroner's report on this case.

media are well known for spinning shit, and as I eluded to earlier I dont think we're getting the full honest story here.

A very sceptical Mac.

viking wrote:Found it Andy yep 7g/kg.
If I remember my studies nothing is a poison, same as everything is a poison. It is all to do with dose.

Spoken like a Pharmacy student ;-)

Either way you lean, a clear advisory label/warning OR retailers keeping such drink in a separate section (glass case) with appropriate labelling is a good idea.

Also with a flash point of 17 deg C I'm intrigued how retailers seem to be exempt from any storage/handling/signage requirements.

That bottle is normaly kept at the front counter in a glass case

That bottle is normaly kept at the front counter in a glass case

Well they must of put a rule in place at some point coz 28 years ago I bought that stuff straight off the shelf along side all the other spirits. :scared-eek:

MacStill wrote:apparently a blood alcohol reading of .400 is clinically dead, it would be very interesting to see the coroner's report on this case.

media are well known for spinning shit, and as I eluded to earlier I dont think we're getting the full honest story here.

A very sceptical Mac.

True. Much like the blokes who died up in NT who drank "grapa".

There was of course much more to the story.

Well, I learned something from the article. Apparently the bottle contained 38 standard drinks, which they say is twice the potentially lethal dose for an adult.
Some years ago when I was building my house and living in a caravan onsite, it was a really cold night in an old caravan. Anyway, I ended up drinking a bottle of Real McCoy Bourbon in well under an hour according to those that were with me. Last I looked, that stuff was 20 standard drinks. I guess the Devil didn't want me after all. I know my head was a little tender the next day.
It is a tragedy that a young life was cut so short, but it does seem to be more of a freak occurrence than anything, normally the body will purge the alcohol, although I do wonder if the hit was so sudden that it suppressed the vomiting reflex.

'potentially lethal'

There'd be plenty among us that would've given 20 standard drinks a nudge on occasion...

Yep, it illustrates just how easily accidents can occur.