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Flavouring your own oak dominoes

PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 7:59 pm
by Doubleuj
I am wondering the benefits of flavouring your own oak dominoes with port, sherry etc?
Would this work?
I gave a couple of bottles of my whiskey essenenced neutral to a mate and he stored them in his 4L barrel which previously had port in it.
After only 2 weeks the port flavour really came through, so much so it was nearly all port to my taste.
So I'm thinking could you toast and char some dominoes or oak off cuts and soak them in port, or sherry or something to impart a fuller flavour to my whiskey?
I've read a few great threads about oak flavouring, this for one:
http://aussiedistiller.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=5827
but couldn't find a discussion on this particular topic.

Re: Flavouring your own oak dominoes

PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 8:13 pm
by Wobblyboot
Are u aiming for Irish whiskey, isn't that aged in old sherry barrels?

Re: Flavouring your own oak dominoes

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 3:39 pm
by Andy
yes you can :)

i like soaking some oak in sweet sherry for a few weeks/month then using them to age my rum.
jim beam small batch is port barrels i think. there are many distilleries that use sherry or port casks.

Re: Flavouring your own oak dominoes

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 3:59 pm
by Doubleuj
Nice, do you soak them raw or after toast/ charring?

Re: Flavouring your own oak dominoes

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 4:30 pm
by Andy
mine are already toasted so I just chuck them in. take a bit longer to age product after they have been in the sherry or port

Re: Flavouring your own oak dominoes

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 4:52 pm
by warramungas
Wouldn't it be easier just to age on oak then add some port/sherry?

Re: Flavouring your own oak dominoes

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 4:57 pm
by scythe
Would the oak filter the port/sherry at all?, keeping some of the undesirables out of the aged product (what ever they may be).

Re: Flavouring your own oak dominoes

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 5:08 pm
by Wobblyboot
I did read somewhere that a company aged normally in charred barrels then transferred to port barrels for short time to finish off. Are sherry or port barrels charred?

Re: Flavouring your own oak dominoes

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:14 pm
by Doubleuj
I tried the add port to the drink method. Didn't work.
Neighbour and I tried I emulate jim beam small batch which is bourbon with a nice port hint.
We added various amounts of port to our bourbons till both bottles were gone, not very scientific but hey, was a good night. :obscene-drinkingdrunk:
The whiskey I got back from my mate had that good port flavour just from the barrel.
Just for my tastes it was too much port, admittedly it was only nuetral with essence though to start with though.
Thinking I'll try some sherry Andy, cheers for that :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Flavouring your own oak dominoes

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:22 pm
by Rowey
I put 10 dominoes in a jar and filled it with port, i plan on pulling the dominoes out of the jar filled with port at differnt stages to see how it will go at ageing some rum. :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Flavouring your own oak dominoes

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:56 pm
by rumdidlydum
Doubleuj wrote:I tried the add port to the drink method. Didn't work.
Neighbour and I tried I emulate jim beam small batch which is bourbon with a nice port hint.
We added various amounts of port to our bourbons till both bottles were gone, not very scientific but hey, was a good night. :obscene-drinkingdrunk: :

:laughing-rolling: Glad to see you had a go :dance:

Re: Flavouring your own oak dominoes

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:18 pm
by Doubleuj
rumdidlydum wrote:
Doubleuj wrote:I tried the add port to the drink method. Didn't work.
Neighbour and I tried I emulate jim beam small batch which is bourbon with a nice port hint.
We added various amounts of port to our bourbons till both bottles were gone, not very scientific but hey, was a good night. :obscene-drinkingdrunk: :

:laughing-rolling: Glad to see you had a go :dance:

:teasing-tease:

Re: Flavouring your own oak dominoes

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:54 pm
by Doubleuj
There's got to be an endless list of ideas for this to add flavour profiles to your drink.
Port
Sherry
Brandy
Malt extract
Vanilla
Chocolate
Peat?

Re: Flavouring your own oak dominoes

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 10:39 pm
by Andy
i can confirm that adding sherry soaked oak gives a nice subtle flavour, while adding sherry directly also give a nice flavour, though it obviously isnt a subtle profile.

aging with oak and other items also gives a new dimension to an old drink. add some raisins, add a squirt of honey, drop in a vanilla bean, lots to play with

Re: Flavouring your own oak dominoes

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:07 pm
by frednurk
I was chatting with one of the coopers here in Adelaide. He makes barrels for a number of commercial distilleries. He said he uses secondhand wood from the really old port barrels, but scrapes the first 2-3mm of really port soaked wood off the barrel before reassembling and charring them. This still leaves lots of port flavour, but takes away the really heavy overpowering flavour.

Anyway, doesn't really answer your question, but thought it might be interesting to you.

Re: Flavouring your own oak dominoes

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:55 pm
by WalterWhite
Hi Fred .... Did you happen to ask him what he does with the off cuts?
I would love to get hold of some of his off cuts etc if at all possible

Re: Flavouring your own oak dominoes

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:47 pm
by Nino
BennyHiggo wrote:Hi Fred .... Did you happen to ask him what he does with the off cuts?
I would love to get hold of some of his off cuts etc if at all possible



:text-+1: :)

Re: Flavouring your own oak dominoes

PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:06 pm
by frednurk
Unfortunately I didn't ask him, but I'll have a chat to him when I pick up the barrels I have ordered. Would be nice to get some oak dominoes which has had port or sherry in it for the last 50 years or so!

Re: Flavouring your own oak dominoes

PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:02 pm
by WalterWhite
Yeah that would be awesome Fred!
Even just off cuts of raw oak when he is making the barrels would be good though. Just a matter of toasting and charring.
Tell us more about your barrels