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Re: Found a source of Oak - Raw, Toast or Char?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:27 pm
by Wobblyboot
I use the Samuel willards for my jd knockoff. All rest been far too sweet..
But I use 3 of the premium and 1 of the special (if u know the star 1's) to make 8litres. Trying to put pics up but can't..

Re: Found a source of Oak - Raw, Toast or Char?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:37 pm
by WTDist
Satly_Dog wrote:
JamieC wrote:One success I have had is with Spirits Unlimited Southerner chips. 15g per litre as per instructions for a week on TPW @ 65% smells awesome. Nice base to work with. I have been watering down to 38% and using reduced amount of Edwards Tennessee Essence, but for the wife's southern, as per recipe Edwards again. Comes out nice.


I literally just made the above, and its horrible, smells like bubble gum, not sure i even want to taste it.
That is if you are trying to make a Tennessee Bourbon.... But, if you are trying to make Southern Comfort, its pretty dam close :))

Lol i think i said somewhere no Tennessee whisky essence tastes crap. Its ok... i guess if your outa grog :))

Re: Found a source of Oak - Raw, Toast or Char?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 8:58 pm
by Satly_Dog
WTDist wrote:Lol i think i said somewhere no Tennessee whisky essence tastes crap. Its ok... i guess if your outa grog :))


Correct

And the other suggestion with the 1 Month of Oaking and Bush Turkey is utter crap too!

Re: Found a source of Oak - Raw, Toast or Char?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:32 pm
by Dig Brinker
I've got some apple & cherry wood chips toasting in the oven now, going to use initially in my CFW variation, in conjunction with charred oak dominoes. Cooking at 160 C will keep a good eye on them as they are varying sizes but mostly on the small side.

Re: Found a source of Oak - Raw, Toast or Char?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:30 am
by Dig Brinker
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Ok, if any spirit ends up tasting like this wood smelled whilst I was toasting it then I am onto the biggest winner ever :teasing-neener:
Makes me wanna eat all the sweet pies that the US has :scared-eek:

Toasted at 160 c 45 minutes
Increase temp to 180 c 30 minutes
Increase to 190 c 15 minutes

I've put a small piece of each (no weight, sorry) in a litre of my black Mac that's been on 1 charred American domino for a week because it smelled something great. Have another on charred oak to gauge the difference.

In the photos above there is an un-toasted chip in the centre for comparison. Cherry top pics, apple down the bottom.

Re: Found a source of Oak - Raw, Toast or Char?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 9:25 am
by EziTasting
Satly_Dog wrote:Well, just mixed up 2 Litres of 65% TPW
Added the correct amount of Scrub Turkey (Edwards)
Added 30g Domino

I have to say, it smelt and tasted gawd awful (that same sweet bubblegum taste)
Lets see what a month or two does



So SD, any update on this?

Been looking on the Internet looking for Cherrywood or even Applewood for dominoes with little success. Is that because it isn't considered valuable enough for maturing or are there other reasons it's not considered for "Oak-maturing" spirits?
(ps: I realise its 'NOT' oak, I'm using that term as a process descriptor...

Re: Found a source of Oak - Raw, Toast or Char?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 11:14 am
by wynnum1
Have a look for BBQ smoke wood .

Re: Found a source of Oak - Raw, Toast or Char?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 4:39 pm
by Dig Brinker
More likely to find chips rather than dominoes though. I did find a place that sells chunks as in small rounds & split rounds, you could cut these to domino size and toast to your preference.

Re: Found a source of Oak - Raw, Toast or Char?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 6:12 pm
by EziTasting
Thank you w1 & bd,
I did end up finding a place in Melbourne but that's on the other side of the country...

Will see if I can't find someone like that down in Perth... Do you use it with or without oak at the same time?

Re: Found a source of Oak - Raw, Toast or Char?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 6:34 pm
by Kenster
Ezi, as you see by the Smoke site, these types of fruit wood are used in Europe as a standard smoking and flavouring wood.
These are cold climate trees and dont really do that well in WA. because the season is too short to form fruit. Cherry, apple and pear are suited to the colder Vic climate as they need between 1000 and 1500 hours of below 10C temp to set fruit. Not sure if there are any orchards around you, dont think so, but you could lob in late summer when they prune, usually they just throw it away.Keep for a year to dry/season and you are right to go.
I have a variety of mature trees (about 30) and hence the "too much info'...sorry

Re: Found a source of Oak - Raw, Toast or Char?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 6:36 pm
by Nino
EziTasting wrote:Thank you w1 & bd,
I did end up finding a place in Melbourne but that's on the other side of the country...

Will see if I can't find someone like that down in Perth... Do you use it with or without oak at the same time?


Pity they don't have apple wood :(. I would love to try and charcoal it and use it as a filter for bourbon.

Re: Found a source of Oak - Raw, Toast or Char?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 6:40 pm
by bluc
Dont bunnings sell large chips (bout the size of pine chips for gardens) for smoking from memory they do quite a few different types..

Re: Found a source of Oak - Raw, Toast or Char?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 6:57 pm
by bluc

Re: Found a source of Oak - Raw, Toast or Char?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 7:45 pm
by TasSpirits
I just got a few different Tasmanian woods to try smoking with, all well seasoned, Blackwood, sassafras, Tas Oak, Sheok and Red Cherry. I also have some Apple, Plum and Cherry wood seasoning to turn into dominoes, going to source a bit more to play with.

Re: Found a source of Oak - Raw, Toast or Char?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 7:49 pm
by Nino


Thanks Bluc last time I looked on ebay there wasn't any there, as for our local BBQ shops all they seem to sell is the small chips but not in apple.
:handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Found a source of Oak - Raw, Toast or Char?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 7:58 pm
by bluc
Pretty sure tas oak is a eucalyptus :handgestures-thumbdown: research to be sure you dont want to poison yourself

Re: Found a source of Oak - Raw, Toast or Char?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 8:09 pm
by TasSpirits
Apparently its OK, according to the BBQ and Smoking Gurus, Ill try it with food, but thats it.

Re: Found a source of Oak - Raw, Toast or Char?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 10:04 pm
by EziTasting
Nino wrote:
EziTasting wrote:Thank you w1 & bd,
I did end up finding a place in Melbourne but that's on the other side of the country...

Will see if I can't find someone like that down in Perth... Do you use it with or without oak at the same time?


Pity they don't have apple wood :(. I would love to try and charcoal it and use it as a filter for bourbon.



They do: Apple chunks...

Re: Found a source of Oak - Raw, Toast or Char?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 10:08 pm
by EziTasting



Haha I almost looks like the same mob!

Re: Found a source of Oak - Raw, Toast or Char?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 9:10 pm
by Wobblyboot
EziTasting wrote:



Haha I almost looks like the same mob!

It is same bloke! Iv bought charcoal and cherrywood from him....