Toasted Corn Whisky

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Re: Toasted Corn Whisky

Postby EziTasting » Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:47 am

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Re: Toasted Corn Whisky

Postby ultrasuede » Sat Feb 25, 2017 11:29 am

I couldn't find any iodine, so 1.055 looks like my starting SG.
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Re: Toasted Corn Whisky

Postby OzzyChef » Sat Feb 25, 2017 11:32 am

1055 is pretty good though ultra, 1060 is target isn't it? Should give you a nice starting point wash to build on. It's all learning right?
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Re: Toasted Corn Whisky

Postby ultrasuede » Sat Feb 25, 2017 11:40 am

For sure Chef. I also just started a toasted sorghum, wheat, corn and barley whisky. The mash smells incredible
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Re: Toasted Corn Whisky

Postby bluc » Sat Feb 25, 2017 11:56 am

ultrasuede wrote:I couldn't find any iodine, so 1.055 looks like my starting SG.
tipsy wrote:Welcome Ted

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Art, I could do with some matches


Betadine works the stuff you put on cuts..
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Re: Toasted Corn Whisky

Postby OzzyChef » Sat Feb 25, 2017 12:05 pm

bluc wrote:
ultrasuede wrote:I couldn't find any iodine, so 1.055 looks like my starting SG.
tipsy wrote:Welcome Ted

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Art, I could do with some matches


Betadine works the stuff you put on cuts..


Bloody hell thats a good tip bluc! Everyone has that gear in the first aid kit!
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Re: Toasted Corn Whisky

Postby ultrasuede » Sat Feb 25, 2017 12:43 pm

Awesome! Didn't know that, cheers!
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Re: Toasted Corn Whisky

Postby ultrasuede » Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:41 pm

After about 4 days, all the activity stopped, and the SG held at 1.033. Worked out about 5%. The beer tasted sour, but nice, and defiantly starchy.
After spending over an hour separating the grain from the beer, into the boiler it went. Stripped hard and fast. The low wines tasted awesome.
After the spirit run, I was left with 800ml of 80% moonshine. The taste is incredible. I can't get over how sweet it tastes, and how thick the texture is. Really nice the way it is, but should I oak it?
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Re: Toasted Corn Whisky

Postby bluc » Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:55 pm

Yes oak it. Oak is like bacon... everything is better with oak :laughing-rolling:
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Re: Toasted Corn Whisky

Postby azzman » Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:09 pm

bluc wrote:Yes oak it. Oak is like bacon... everything is better with oak :laughing-rolling:

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Re: Toasted Corn Whisky

Postby EziTasting » Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:19 pm

bluc wrote:Yes oak it. Oak is like bacon... everything is better with oak :laughing-rolling:


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Re: Toasted Corn Whisky

Postby Zak Griffin » Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:38 pm

I'd leave it white, personally... let that corn sing!
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Re: Toasted Corn Whisky

Postby Minpac » Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:21 pm

Both. Both is good.

Split it and oak half to test. It may be awesome, but you'll never know until you try!
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Re: Toasted Corn Whisky

Postby ultrasuede » Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:31 pm

There wasn't that much to play with. If anyone finds a reasonably priced source of beta and alpha amylase, please share. 50L of corn wash should make more than 800ml of 80% awesome.
I watered it down to 65%, to bring my volume up to 1.1ish litres and added 5g charred american oak, 5g charred french oak, and 10g of charred applewood. That combo works well on my rum, so interested to see how the magic tastes on my corn shine.
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Re: Toasted Corn Whisky

Postby mattcoffs » Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:24 pm

ultrasuede wrote:There wasn't that much to play with. If anyone finds a reasonably priced source of beta and alpha amylase, please share. 50L of corn wash should make more than 800ml of 80% awesome.
I watered it down to 65%, to bring my volume up to 1.1ish litres and added 5g charred american oak, 5g charred french oak, and 10g of charred applewood. That combo works well on my rum, so interested to see how the magic tastes on my corn shine.


I wouldn't think you need any enzymes if you're using malted barley...?
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Re: Toasted Corn Whisky

Postby ultrasuede » Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:14 pm

Not enough enzymes in the barley for that much corn.
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Re: Toasted Corn Whisky

Postby Swedish Pride » Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:53 pm

ultrasuede wrote: If anyone finds a reasonably priced source of beta and alpha amylase, please share.


I use a polish crowd, now they don't have any prices for shipping outside of Europe but no harm asking, especially as you get enough enzymes to convert 300kg of grain for a fiver.
https://destylacja.com/pl/p/Enzymy-do-z ... zowych/531

luckily the site has an translate option as I can just about say kurwa in polish.

I've used it two times, works good, but you have to pay attention to protocol, the enzymash stuff is easier to work with but pricier.
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Re: Toasted Corn Whisky

Postby Minpac » Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:32 am

I've sent them an email to see if they'll ship and for how much...
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Re: Toasted Corn Whisky

Postby mattcoffs » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:51 am

ultrasuede wrote:Not enough enzymes in the barley for that much corn.


http://www.brewhaus.com/Free-Stuff/instruction-pages/wheat-vodka-recipe.pdf

The above vodka mash is:
4kg wheat (174g/L)
3/4kg of wheat malt (32.61g/L)
23L water

••••187.5g malt per kg of grain••••

The OP's recipe uses;

4kg roasted corn (100g/L)
4kg cracked corn (100g/L)
1.5kg malted barley (37.5g/L)
40lt water

••••187.5g malt per kg grain••••

Unless i'm a muppet, i'm getting the same ratio of malt per kg on both these recipes.
Maybe it's an efficiency/PH/hardness issue?

I'm not sure of the enzyme content difference between wheat/barley malt. But why not just up the barley?
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Re: Toasted Corn Whisky

Postby tipsy » Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:06 am

mattcoffs wrote:
ultrasuede wrote:Not enough enzymes in the barley for that much corn.


http://www.brewhaus.com/Free-Stuff/instruction-pages/wheat-vodka-recipe.pdf

The above vodka mash is:
4kg wheat (174g/L)
3/4kg of wheat malt (32.61g/L)
23L water

••••187.5g malt per kg of grain••••

The OP's recipe uses;

4kg roasted corn (100g/L)
4kg cracked corn (100g/L)
1.5kg malted barley (37.5g/L)
40lt water

••••187.5g malt per kg grain••••

Unless i'm a muppet, i'm getting the same ratio of malt per kg on both these recipes.
Maybe it's an efficiency/PH/hardness issue?

I'm not sure of the enzyme content difference between wheat/barley malt. But why not just up the barley?


The first recipe has wheat malt, I'd assume it's malted wheat :think: therefore able to convert the other wheat?
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