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Re: shiraz gin

PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:42 pm
by The Dark Alchemist
scythe wrote:10g of sugar per bottle?
Did you invert it before adding?
Or just tip it in?

You might of had better colour extraction from a higher %ABV


10g/ 700ml bottle, plus 100g with original blend - I'll be tweaking the sugar as I go. I just tipped it in and let it dissolve.

No issues with the colour though.

Re: shiraz gin

PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:02 pm
by BSC_Kilby
The Dark Alchemist wrote:
scythe wrote:10g of sugar per bottle?
Did you invert it before adding?
Or just tip it in?

You might of had better colour extraction from a higher %ABV


10g/ 700ml bottle, plus 100g with original blend - I'll be tweaking the sugar as I go. I just tipped it in and let it dissolve.

No issues with the colour though.


The skins are gonna impart tannin, which will make the drink drier and more bitter, that's why the 4 pillars stuff is mainly getting flavour from the unfermented juice they add. The unfermented shiraz juice gives heaps of flavour and sweetens the drink. Gotta be careful not to dilute it too much, cause if the abv drops too far the sugar in the juice will ferment and give you off flavours.

Re: shiraz gin

PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:57 am
by The Dark Alchemist
BSC_Kilby wrote:
The skins are gonna impart tannin, which will make the drink drier and more bitter, that's why the 4 pillars stuff is mainly getting flavour from the unfermented juice they add. The unfermented shiraz juice gives heaps of flavour and sweetens the drink. Gotta be careful not to dilute it too much, cause if the abv drops too far the sugar in the juice will ferment and give you off flavours.


Thanks for that BSC_Kilby; maybe I need to consider diluting my higher ABV with grape juice instead of water to get the sweetness 4P gets from the unfermented juice...

Will have another crack at this.

Re: shiraz gin

PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:52 pm
by The Dark Alchemist
The Dark Alchemist wrote:Will have another crack at this.

And I have with cracking results!!!!

My 2021 version used freshly picked Pinot grapes, straight off the vine, (instead of just the pressed skins used last time). The end product has a redder colour, compared to the skin version, which now looks a browner red by comparison. Taste is sensational - no sharpness, no dryness, just a beautiful sweeter drink. Thanks for the input previously, as it really helped.

2L My Dry Gin
500g Fresh Pinot Grapes
100g Caster Sugar

Left for 2 months in a dark place, stirring regularly. Strain grapes from liquid; crush and reconstitute mixture and leave in the dark place for a further 2 weeks. Strain, settle decant and drink. :happy-partydance:

Re: shiraz gin

PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:01 pm
by clintonb
The Dark Alchemist wrote:
The Dark Alchemist wrote:Will have another crack at this.

And I have with cracking results!!!!

My 2021 version used freshly picked Pinot grapes, straight off the vine, (instead of just the pressed skins used last time). The end product has a redder colour, compared to the skin version, which now looks a browner red by comparison. Taste is sensational - no sharpness, no dryness, just a beautiful sweeter drink. Thanks for the input previously, as it really helped.

2L My Dry Gin
500g Fresh Pinot Grapes
100g Caster Sugar

Left for 2 months in a dark place, stirring regularly. Strain grapes from liquid; crush and reconstitute mixture and leave in the dark place for a further 2 weeks. Strain, settle decant and drink. :happy-partydance:


Sounds delious, what's your base gin recipe?

Re: shiraz gin

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:19 am
by The Dark Alchemist
clintonb wrote:Sounds delious, what's your base gin recipe?


For every 1L neutral:
Juniper Berries 20g
Coriander 10g
Angelica Root 2g
Licquorice Root 2g
Orange Peel 0.2g

Mascerate for 48hrs and redistill - simples...

Re: shiraz gin

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:57 am
by clintonb
The Dark Alchemist wrote:
clintonb wrote:Sounds delious, what's your base gin recipe?


For every 1L neutral:
Juniper Berries 20g
Coriander 10g
Angelica Root 2g
Licquorice Root 2g
Orange Peel 0.2g

Mascerate for 48hrs and redistill - simples...


Thanks :handgestures-thumbupleft: what ABV are you mascerating at, when you say 1L of neutral :-B Thanks again :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: shiraz gin

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 12:57 pm
by The Dark Alchemist
clintonb wrote:Thanks :handgestures-thumbupleft: what ABV are you mascerating at, when you say 1L of neutral :-B Thanks again :handgestures-thumbupleft:


42% - I just pulled out a couple of bottles I made previously..

Re: shiraz gin

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:12 pm
by clintonb
The Dark Alchemist wrote:
42% - I just pulled out a couple of bottles I made previously..
:handgestures-thumbupleft: :text-thankyoublue: