BigRig wrote:I will let someone else chime in with this particular wash as i don't use it but with any of the tried and true recipes i usually estimate about a 10% return of useable spirit from the wash.
Using cuts, from a 25L wash i would expect 2.5L of good spirit. This is about half of what you get off the turdbo washes.
Quality over quantity as they say.
globalmark wrote:Thaks for the info
i tried doing a Gin run last night while my weetabix wash is still fermenting which calls for take 1litre neutral spirit at 40% dilute to 4litres and put back in the still with a botanical basket and some botanicals in the top - so i did that and found 6 small jars (all i had at time) threw away first 20ml then had
1st jar 100ml at 48%
2nd jar 200ml at 41%
3rd jar 200ml at 35%
4th jar 200ml at 27%
5th jar 200ml 17%
6th jar 100ml at 12%
7th pot left over 220ml was 4%
8th just let still run made 2.6litres and just comes out ar 0%
i have a refactometer i think its called gives me this measurements
so yes it seems the airstill continues to distil until its dry
questions - with above quantities as this has all been distilled once and i threw 20-25ml of foreshots away already on both distilling runs - what would you do to make the gin in this case (or vodka or whatever for a double distil) - i am presuming i either take jars 1-6 mix them to make 1litre of gin at 60% abv or i would maybe throw 5, 6, 7, 8 jars and keep 1-4 and make 700ml 37.75% abv , or what would you suggest
i also did the smell test with the wife and yes it is more chemically (like acetone in pot 1 going to more cardboard in last then in jug 8 its basically water so no smell again there ..
whats your suggestions - how to mix and is this approx what i would do with the weetabix wash when i get there ?
Thanks so much guys for your help
globalmark wrote:HI Howard
thanks for the reply -
yes have to do 6 batches of 4litres and i save 700ml of that minus first 20ml i bin and end i bin -
but i am unclear on a 2nd distill what to save there
RE - gin making , that was my post above i have already some neutral spirit which i was using the gin basket above and those were the % i got out of the airstill but my problem is what do i mix back together ? all of it or parts of it ?
I bought a couple gin mixes (juniperberries and other botanicals) put them in muslim bag and they go in a small metal sieve basket that clips inside top of airstill - flavours it that way .
thanks mark
globalmark wrote:HI
yes thanks for that - the normal instructions for a run in the still spitits is make wash then put it in the still 4litres start it and collect first 700-800ml turn off still and throw away rest (as airstill runs till finished) and they say dont need throw away any foreshot but i was told by someone always good idea so i throw the first 20ml away and keep 700ml this comes out at approx 60% (think thats strongest you get from airstil) they then say dilute to 40% filter and drink i think the original airstill instructions are confusing you, seeing as you're trying to make a non-turdbo wash
or
if making gin (instruction bit confusing here) says take the 700ml dilute to 40% (makes 1 litre), filter this - then dilute to 4litres should make 12% (that doesnt add upto me also) the run through still with botanicals in basket) - thats all it says doesnt say if keep all , 700ml , 1 litre etc - i have emailed still spirits airstill and asked .i don't understand either, that sounds wrong. just follow odins easy gin method, the airstill should be good for that (with good quality neutral obv).
mascerate in a separate jar and then run through the airstill
either way should help understand this airstill 2nd distilling .
NB- not sure what you mean by running through a power controller ? i have read that some people run the base through a simple power controller that adjusts the voltage and hence the power to the base. but i think the lid still needs to be connected to full power.
reducing the power to the base should reduce the rate of boil and in turn, reduce smearing the heads through the run
dont know whats going on in airstill as lid is on and cant see but think boils at 75-80 degrees or something you cannot control the boiling temp of a liquid, only the power input which changes the rate of boil
you tube guy - if he collected all not sure how that works - as per my measurements above the last 2 litres was just water - and so would make a very weak gin so not sure how that would work - as 4litres in airstill 4litres out ?
let alone taste
have a look in the 5-star online shop (link at top), they sell good quality copper mesh and power controllers.
i suppose you could put a few metres of copper mesh in the airstill while distilling as well.
this might get rid of the sulphur/meaty aromas, the acetone aromas are usually removed by cuts.
i came across this diagram while looking around.
but hey, this thread has gone off topic a bit :smile:
and no replies from airstill users, maybe you should start a new topic with any more questions and i'm sure you'll get more help
Mark
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