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Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:42 pm
by Nathan38
HI about to run my first tpw wash thru a turbo 500 how much heads should I roughly throw away with the turbo yeast i was ditching 100 mm

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:50 pm
by Doubleuj
Welcome here Nathan, pop in to the welcome centre and introduce yourself while you're waiting for the t500 to warm up,
Answering your question, 100mm or so of "fores" is fine (heads are different, what comes out after fores)

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:23 pm
by Nathan38
With the turbo Yeast i have only got rid of the first 100 ml of fore shots .what about heads I always stop the boiler as soon as it slow it drip and I was triple filtering on a home made active carbon filter

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:43 pm
by Sam.
Have a read up on how to do cuts in the newbie corner mate let your taste and smell decide :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:33 pm
by JamieM
5kg sugar - That's the energy. That's the alcohol in waiting. I can see that.

80grams bakers yeast - That's the engine. That turns the sugar into alcohol.

What are these for? What's their roles? I'm mostly curious.
1/4 tea spoon citric acid
200 grams leggo's tomato paste.

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:52 pm
by Doubleuj
Hi Jamie, yeast thrives in a slightly acid environment, hence the citric acid
The tomato paste is a great nutrient for the yeast to eat, they can't make good booze just on sugar :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:04 pm
by JamieM
Doubleuj wrote:Hi Jamie, yeast thrives in a slightly acid environment, hence the citric acid
The tomato paste is a great nutrient for the yeast to eat, they can't make good booze just on sugar :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Got it. :handgestures-thumbupleft: :handgestures-thumbupright:

Thank you. :text-thankyoublue:

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:48 am
by Dig Brinker
This info is all in this thread, just past the first post. :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:34 am
by Woods314
I'm new here and have read a fair bit of this particular forum but haven't been able to answer a couple of questions so excuse me if they have been answered as this forum is of considerable size. First of all, is tomatoe purée ok to use instead of tomatoe paste as I notice it is about 1/2 the price, and my other question is, does it matter whether the tomatoe paste is salted or unsalted, I realise the salt would be removed in the distillation but I was wondering if it affected the fermentation.

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:37 am
by Zak Griffin
Unsalted is the go mate, purée probably works...

You say cheaper, but you're talking about making spirits for under $5/L here ;-)

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:52 am
by Woods314
Thanks for that, yea I know it's already cheap, but there are some frugal people out there as I have seen on this forum and some buy the plain wrap tomatoe paste so I thought the cheaper purée might be an option.

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:28 am
by Plumby
I just use Coles, Woolworths or aldi brand tomato paste, all my ferments worked fine.

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:13 pm
by Woods314
Thanks Zac and Plumby, getting valuable advice already!

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:23 pm
by Professor Green
For what it's worth, tomato purée does work!

Cheers,
Prof. Green.

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:15 am
by scythe
Obviously you are going to need more puree compared to paste tho.

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 2:01 pm
by freebeertomorrow
Green as grass spirit distiller here (first wash ever is only 2 days in the fermenter).

Would love to start doing TPW if they are going to give better results than the recommended turbo washes in my Still Spirits Air Still.

I only have a 10 litre fermenter so am unsure of the ingredient quantities I would need for such a small wash.

Would the yields from the 4 litre Air still be the same at 700 mls whereby adding 300mls of water would take it down to 40% ABV?

If this has been discussed previously if someone could please point me to the relevant page in this rather long thread.

Lots of questions and very little idea of what I'm doing unfortunately, perhaps for a while I should continue on with the basic instructions that came with the Still?

Cheers for any help/advice given.

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 2:09 pm
by EziTasting
FBT, mate you won't get the same qty of spirit but I he quality will far far better than anything Turbo.

As for adjusting the recipe, I usually scale it by volume... that's just easy for me

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:02 pm
by freebeertomorrow
EziTasting wrote:FBT, mate you won't get the same qty of spirit but I he quality will far far better than anything Turbo.

As for adjusting the recipe, I usually scale it by volume... that's just easy for me


Thanks mate, perhaps this all is a little above my pay grade at the moment - You've told me I'll get less yield but I've still no idea how much I should reasonably draw.

More reading for me I think :-B :))

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:18 pm
by prawnz
FBT , I can give you a tip on yield , only because it has been drummed into me every time I've similar questions .

Forget about "how much your going to get " and learn about cuts , there are some great threads to help there. Its all about quality rather than quantity and lets face it TPW is very cheap to do , so if you want more (and you will) just another wash on .

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:03 am
by EziTasting
freebeertomorrow wrote:Thanks mate, perhaps this all is a little above my pay grade at the moment - You've told me I'll get less yield but I've still no idea how much I should reasonably draw.

More reading for me I think :-B :))


If you work on roughly 10% of the ferment volume that'll give you an indication, well, it works for me!

30L FV approx. = 3L of spirit. Now theres a whole bunch of things that affect this result, ABV of the final ferment, the still your using, your skill at driving that still just to name a few...