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Size of product condensers?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:30 pm
by Sam.
What size are people generally using for product condensers on pot stills/strippers and VM etc?

Is 1/2" through 1.5" around the mark? Also how long? 600mm?

Also at what point is overkill?

For my pot still I was thinking of using 1" in 2", is this too much or is there such a thing as too much?

By the way im just talking about liebig condensers.

Re: Size of product condensers?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:25 pm
by Kimbo
Hi Sam_and_Liv,
some of it depends on how much heat your throwing at it,
the size/ output of your still,
water flow etc, you could probably use a 1/2" inside a 1", at 600 long.
if it's not enough, you could always make a second one or go larger!

Re: Size of product condensers?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:12 pm
by SBB
I started of with 3/4 over 1/2 inch on my first and second pot still....used both of them for stripping mainly. I found that at times depending on amount of alc left in the wash, heat input, and a few other factors that they huffed a bit. After doing a bit of reading I ended up building a 1 inch over 3/4 lieghberg for the pot that I use most......might not be everyones cup of tea but I think it works a heap better. Not only does it huff a lot less under extreme conditions .....but I think it also puts a bit more product out with the same amount of heat as a smaller one.

Re: Size of product condensers?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:03 am
by R-sole
I do inch over 3/4 for my units, about 800-900 long.

Re: Size of product condensers?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:09 pm
by Sam.
So 2" over 1" is just overkill then?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:40 pm
by SBB
Not sure ....I cant see why it wouldnt work.......I would think it would be a good idea to crimp the 1 inch to creat a bit of turbulance in the vapor path.....or shove some copper scrubbers up it......nothing ventured nothing gained. In reality i dont think you would need more than 1 inch over 3/4 unless you had a really big boiler and some very serious heat under it on a stripping run.

Re: Size of product condensers?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:10 am
by R-sole
I think you only need to go up one pipe size, so if using 1" use 32mm for the sheath.

It's not a matter of your water getting hot at the end, it's a matter of contact with cool surface, so a stepped down liebig is going to be more efficient or a longer one.

If you really want to throw heat at it look on Artisan for some more complex builds, search punkindensor or triple walled liebig, even a graham condensor.

Re: Size of product condensers?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:52 am
by stubbydrainer
G'day S&L
Just because I wanted to give myself a challenge, I decided to tame the beast , so to speak,
I use this condenser as my "workhorse" Thought it may be of interest

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=769

Cheers
Stubs

Re: Size of product condensers?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:36 pm
by Sam.
Can someone please post a link to either the punkindensor or triple walled liebig?

don't know if it's just my shit computer but it seems I cannot connect to Home Distiller and my search results are all shit as I am not a member of any other forum :shifty:

Sorry to be a pain in the arse but I am getting too used to the answers falling in my lap with this forum :lol: :lol:

Re: Size of product condensers?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:44 pm
by stubbydrainer
S&L
I just tried and can't connect to there either

Re: Size of product condensers?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:45 pm
by stubbydrainer
what is the heat source your trying to cool down S&L ??

Re: Size of product condensers?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:47 pm
by Sam.
Italian Spiral burner with High Pressure Reg on a 50L keg

Re: Size of product condensers?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:53 pm
by stubbydrainer
I see, how do they compare to the BD747 ?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:54 pm
by Sam.
Figured out how the triple walled liebig works from ur picks Stubbs, just wondering now what the punkindensor is? Is it cryogenic at all? :think:

Re: Size of product condensers?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:06 pm
by stubbydrainer
Honestly mate, I never heard of the punkindenser until it was mentioned here, I don't know what it is yet :laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling:

Re: Size of product condensers?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:13 pm
by Sam.
Hopefully its a flux capacitor wrapped in a continuum transfunctioner.... :laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling:

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:19 pm
by stubbydrainer
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:laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling:

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:11 am
by R-sole

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:50 pm
by Sam.
Thanks for the links 5Star :handgestures-thumbupleft: I would never had found those links otherwise.

Some of those designs are pretty fuckin cool! I thought I was talking about overkill :laughing-rolling: What are some of those guys running? 500L boilers heated directly from motlen magma?

I think for my modest 50L Keg boiler and burner the standard liebig with a couple of winds in it should do the trick nicely.

Re: Size of product condensers?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:21 am
by R-sole
They are all on standard kegs (cept for mcstills) i think, although if there's one from myles in there it'll be on a smaller setup.

It's about the amount of heat you want to throw at it. These designs are just more efficient in knock down power than a standard liebig and more suitable to flat out stripping.