Adding 3" 4 plates glass section to CCVM still

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Adding 3" 4 plates glass section to CCVM still

Postby Rumblepants » Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:03 am

Hi Guys,

I want to speed up my spirit runs. I'm currently running a 2" CCVM still I built. If I replace my column with a 3" glass section with 4 plates and a packed 3inch section will that speed up my runs?

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Re: Adding 3" 4 plates glass section to CCVM still

Postby iOnaBender » Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:32 am

Hi RP,

4" all the way in my opinion for output increase

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Re: Adding 3" 4 plates glass section to CCVM still

Postby iOnaBender » Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:33 am

A mate is running a 3" and is kicking himself he didn't go to 4" first up! :angry-banghead:

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Re: Adding 3" 4 plates glass section to CCVM still

Postby Rumblepants » Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:47 am

iOnaBender wrote:Hi RP,

4" all the way in my opinion for output increase

Cheers


I can't afford to go to 4" plus I'm a bit worried about instability of the still going from 2" ferrule to 4" column.

I was planning to add a 1.5m 3" packed section for my neutral runs. I also make whiskey and rum for which plates seem to be the go for single runs. Maybe i need both?
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Re: Adding 3" 4 plates glass section to CCVM still

Postby The Stig » Sun Aug 01, 2021 12:14 pm

Benders still can for from 2” up to 4” and so does Wellsy’s and they are stable
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Re: Adding 3" 4 plates glass section to CCVM still

Postby Rumblepants » Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:21 pm

RC Al wrote:1. A 1.5m packed column will produce neutral faster than the plates plus packed as described, the plates without the packed produce rum/bourbon/scotch in a single pass without stripping
1m packed and 5 plates - roughly the same as 1.5 packed



Looks like RC Al answered my question in the next page. Looks like having both is the way to go.
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Re: Adding 3" 4 plates glass section to CCVM still

Postby Wellsy » Sun Aug 01, 2021 8:11 pm

Rumblepants, I don’t know what what sort of boiler you have. I have a FSD 50 litre boiler and it handles my 4 plate 4 inch bubbler no hassle at all. Give Andrew at five star a call mate and he will give you honest advice an options that are just not sales for him
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Re: Adding 3" 4 plates glass section to CCVM still

Postby warramungas » Sun Aug 01, 2021 8:13 pm

Yep. I have a 1m 3" packed column and i run 2x4" plates under it. Seems to be enough. I use steel pipe as i would break glass im pretty sure.
I would also struggle to fit 1.5 meters of packed column in my laundry.
I figure the 2 plates boost the initial packed columns feed strength to ~50 to 65%ish feeding the packed column much higher abv and i can pull 2 to 2.5 liters an hour at 96ish%.
Thats with 2 rolled copper mesh inserts in the top and the rest packed with stainless scrubbers.
Thats running at around 2400 watts. I can do more but 2400 seems pretty good.
Im not sure, maybe someone can enlighten me, but i thought 4" packed columns started giving diminishing returns due to small return rivelets forming in the wider pipes open area.
Anyway, 3" is pretty quick by itself compared to 2".
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Re: Adding 3" 4 plates glass section to CCVM still

Postby warramungas » Sun Aug 01, 2021 8:41 pm

Wellsy wrote:Rumblepants, I don’t know what what sort of boiler you have. I have a FSD 50 litre boiler and it handles my 4 plate 4 inch bubbler no hassle at all. Give Andrew at five star a call mate and he will give you honest advice an options that are just not sales for him


Follow this advice. A 3" bubble plate column will work but I'd recommend a 4" as well.
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Re: Adding 3" 4 plates glass section to CCVM still

Postby Rumblepants » Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:40 pm

@wellsy I have a 5oL keg boiler with a 2inch modular CCVM Still on top of it.I have a 2400w element in the keg.


I got excited to upgrade last year and got a 3inch reducer, tee section, elbow and sight glass hence the lean towards a 3inch setup. I ran out of time to work on building easy flanges for my planned 1.5m column section and CSST reflux coil.


my loose plan is to get hold of 4 4inch plates and top that with a 1m packed column if my garage roof is high enough.

Thanks everyone for the input.

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