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Re: How to.... easy, easy flange.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:19 am
by Goldie
I have made a few of these lately in 4" and found no need to heat the pipe first and also I found silver solder worked with Mapp for the 1/4 pipe, no need for brazing.
Also I must say there is something really satisfying making your own pipe flanges.

Re: How to.... easy, easy flange.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:53 pm
by ticknaylor
Where does everyone direct there blowtorch when soldering the ring on. I can do most joins but for some reason easy flanges are a complete pain in the arse for me the solder doesn't wanna do what I want it to. I aim for where the inner part of the ring meets the flanged pipe. Any help would be appreciated I'm obviously fucking up something that should be piss easy

Re: How to.... easy, easy flange.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:12 pm
by MacStill
I aim the point of the flame 15 to 20 mm above the ring, straight at the pipe :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: How to.... easy, easy flange.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:47 pm
by ticknaylor
cheers mac working better now :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: How to.... easy, easy flange.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:12 pm
by tickle
Did my whole modular build with this method. Cuts the cost way down vs buying ferrules, and as it was said earlier, satisfying to make your own. Because of this, with the only exceptions bieng the clamps and the glasses, every part of my build came off the shelves of local plumbing supply. :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: How to.... easy, easy flange.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:44 pm
by Brendan
Has everybody found it fairly easy to seal using this method?

I mean the flanges sit pretty flush, but would still take a fairly decent gasket to make them vapour tight...

I'm thinking the cork...not sure if silicone is going to cut it for my flanges... :think:

Re: How to.... easy, easy flange.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:57 pm
by bt1
cork,

1.5mm if you have flanges dead flat...needless to say the triclamp will pull em up nice without too much hassle.

Silicone not sure...has a tendancy to magically disappear....here have a glass of my new silicone inspired whisky...

bt1

Re: How to.... easy, easy flange.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:35 pm
by googe
Where did you get yours bt?,

Re: How to.... easy, easy flange.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:43 pm
by MacStill
Heat rated silicone is awesome :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: How to.... easy, easy flange.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:40 pm
by tickle
Brendan wrote:Has everybody found it fairly easy to seal using this method?

I mean the flanges sit pretty flush, but would still take a fairly decent gasket to make them vapour tight...

I'm thinking the cork...not sure if silicone is going to cut it for my flanges... :think:

I'm pretty sure others have used cork successfully, i just tested mine with the "everlasting PTFE gasket". Sealed up for testing purposes, I have high hopes for its long term sucess...
everlasting PTFE ezflange gasket.JPG

Re: How to.... easy, easy flange.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:18 am
by googe
Tis ok bt, found some but dont need it now cause i found an endless suply of silicone sheet for freeeee!! :dance: , was a very productive rewarding night :D .

Re: How to.... easy, easy flange.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:47 am
by bt1
Mac I kinda remember you had dissolving silicone gaskets from SD as well.

You have another type here I guess? got any details on em then?

bt1

Re: How to.... easy, easy flange.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:10 am
by MacStill
bt1 those were the silicone o'rings in their SGK's that did that, the silicone tri clamp seals seem to be much more hardy and I'm yet to see any change in them.

That's why I mentioned the "heat rated" in my previous post ;-)

Re: How to.... easy, easy flange.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:48 pm
by bt1
kk,

now it makes a bit more sense...this heat rate you sell em cos I'm looking for a soft flat gasket for the glasser.

bt1

Re: How to.... easy, easy flange.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:32 pm
by MacStill
I reckon you cut your own from silicone bake ware, it's food safe and rated to 450c.... from woolies or coles :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: How to.... easy, easy flange.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:56 am
by Yummyrum
Hi Mac

I noticed on your RC tutorial that you just soldered the ring on

Do you still recommend flaring the end before fitting the ring or is it not really necessary.? Or are there some structural pieces that do/don't need the flaring .

Sorry bit confused :angry-banghead:

Re: How to.... easy, easy flange.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:01 am
by MacStill
I dont bother flaring the end anymore :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: How to.... easy, easy flange.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:19 am
by Yummyrum
Cheers Mac

You just made life a whole lot easier ^:)^

Re: How to.... easy, easy flange.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:32 am
by Brendan
Hey Yummy,

Thought i'd add here to reaffirm, as I have done both of these in the last week.

I originally did a lot of pieces by flaring (and soldering ring on) for 'structural joints', and now since just using the ring only method, I would use this for everything from now on...

It it very strong, and if you have the ability to silver braze/hard solder (MAP gas), even stronger.

Plus I had a lot of issues getting everything square and straight with the flaring method (still am :angry-banghead: ).

Thumbs up for the 1/4" ring from me :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: How to.... easy, easy flange.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:07 pm
by Yummyrum
Cheer Brendan.

Recond you might have been able to make that "The nthree week bubler challenge" in hindsight.