Punchy21's Controller Diagram for the CSVC

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Re: Punchy21's Controller Diagram for the CSVC

Postby 1 2many » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:26 pm

:violence-smack: :violence-smack: Doh messed that up good and proper thank for rectifying :mrgreen:
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Re: Punchy21's Controller Diagram for the CSVC

Postby Yummyrum » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:34 pm

:violence-smack: :violence-smack: slap me back for being a fussy bitch :laughing-rolling:

Your point was valid :handgestures-thumbupleft: .There are a few variations of pot values that need to be observed between these controllers .
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Re: Punchy21's Controller Diagram for the CSVC

Postby Canadoz » Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:42 pm

This is going to be a lifesaver! or at least a money saver.... I don't know if this was covered, but do you know what wattage of heater coil is the most this would handle? or does it have a limit? Also does the PSR-25 need to be mounted on a heat sink or would the fan be enough cooling on it's own?

Thanks for sharing!
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Re: Punchy21's Controller Diagram for the CSVC

Postby Canadoz » Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:07 pm

oh and one more question, all the voltmeter's i can find cheaply are digital with 4 wires (2 for supply and 2 for input) how would that wire in?
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Re: Punchy21's Controller Diagram for the CSVC

Postby Linny » Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:21 pm

the 25 in PSR-25 is the AMPS , theoretically it can handle a 3600watt which is 15AMP. i would highly suggest you use a heat sink over the fan. but would highly recommend both
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Re: Punchy21's Controller Diagram for the CSVC

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Re: Punchy21's Controller Diagram for the CSVC

Postby Linny » Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:38 pm

it doesnt state the operating current load though :doh: could be dangerous , calcs say max 18 amps, 16 amps if you use 240VAC thats cutting it close
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Re: Punchy21's Controller Diagram for the CSVC

Postby 1 2many » Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:45 pm

I will only be running 1 x 2400 watt off it . That controller should handle 16 amps so i will let you know :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Sorry Punchy no highjack intended. :doh:
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Re: Punchy21's Controller Diagram for the CSVC

Postby punchy21 » Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:58 pm

1 2many wrote:I will only be running 1 x 2400 watt off it . That controller should handle 16 amps so i will let you know :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Sorry Punchy no highjack intended. :doh:

No apology required mate, this thread is for everyone :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Punchy21's Controller Diagram for the CSVC

Postby MacStill » Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:58 pm

all these could, should & maybe comments need to be left out of this thread, unless you're qualified and can say "it will work" then you need to refrain from giving advise on electrical matters.

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Re: Punchy21's Controller Diagram for the CSVC

Postby 1 2many » Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:11 pm

Too true Mac "use a licenced sparky" is what he was saying.
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Re: Punchy21's Controller Diagram for the CSVC

Postby punchy21 » Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:20 pm

Linny wrote:the 25 in PSR-25 is the AMPS , theoretically it can handle a 3600watt which is 15AMP. i would highly suggest you use a heat sink over the fan. but would highly recommend both


:text-yeahthat:
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Re: Punchy21's Controller Diagram for the CSVC

Postby punchy21 » Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:25 pm

Canadoz wrote:oh and one more question, all the voltmeter's i can find cheaply are digital with 4 wires (2 for supply and 2 for input) how would that wire in?


An analog meter will be more sensitive and accurate, digitals can be influenced by interference more...

Im assuming from your name your from Canada or Oz?? 8-}
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Re: Punchy21's Controller Diagram for the CSVC

Postby 1 2many » Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:09 pm

punchy21 wrote:
Canadoz wrote:oh and one more question, all the voltmeter's i can find cheaply are digital with 4 wires (2 for supply and 2 for input) how would that wire in?


An analog meter will be more sensitive and accurate, digitals can be influenced by interference more...

Im assuming from your name your from Canada or Oz?? 8-}


Agree analog will be alot smoother than the digitals thay bounce around a bit.
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Re: Punchy21's Controller Diagram for the CSVC

Postby Canadoz » Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:30 pm

punchy21 wrote:
Canadoz wrote:oh and one more question, all the voltmeter's i can find cheaply are digital with 4 wires (2 for supply and 2 for input) how would that wire in?


An analog meter will be more sensitive and accurate, digitals can be influenced by interference more...

Im assuming from your name your from Canada or Oz?? 8-}


Yep, Canadian Expat living in Sydney since 2006.
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Re: Punchy21's Controller Diagram for the CSVC

Postby Canadoz » Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:39 pm

punchy21 wrote:
Linny wrote:the 25 in PSR-25 is the AMPS , theoretically it can handle a 3600watt which is 15AMP. i would highly suggest you use a heat sink over the fan. but would highly recommend both


:text-yeahthat:


Using an online calculator I found that @ 25A and 240v the peak load rating of the circuit is 6000W - 20% overhead for safety would put it's capacity @ 4500W. Is my math or understanding of the relationship off?

Oh and I intend to use both heatsink and fan, for good measure. Thanks
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Re: Punchy21's Controller Diagram for the CSVC

Postby punchy21 » Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:53 pm

you got it mate :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Are you planing on running 4500W off it? If so you'll need a 20A outlet...
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Re: Punchy21's Controller Diagram for the CSVC

Postby Canadoz » Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:11 pm

punchy21 wrote:you got it mate :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Are you planing on running 4500W off it? If so you'll need a 20A outlet...


Will be using a 2200w to start with, and see how it performs, just wanted to future proof in case I feel the need for more watts. I'll keep the outlet amperage in mind for then.

What's different about a 20A outlet? I know the garage has a 20A circuit breaker dedicated to it on the panel.....
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Re: Punchy21's Controller Diagram for the CSVC

Postby Canadoz » Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:36 pm

punchy21 wrote:you got it mate :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Are you planing on running 4500W off it? If so you'll need a 20A outlet...


Raises another question, what gauge of wire should be used for the internal wiring of the controller?
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Re: Punchy21's Controller Diagram for the CSVC

Postby punchy21 » Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:01 pm

Canadoz wrote:Will be using a 2200w to start with, and see how it performs, just wanted to future proof in case I feel the need for more watts. I'll keep the outlet amperage in mind for then.

What's different about a 20A outlet? I know the garage has a 20A circuit breaker dedicated to it on the panel.....

Will be on its own circuit unlike a 10A outlet which can have a shitload more - and protected by the 20A breaker you mentioned, and the outlet is rated to carry 20A...

Canadoz wrote:Raises another question, what gauge of wire should be used for the internal wiring of the controller?

2.5mm2 will be ok for 2200w
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