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by Mad » Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:19 pm
Meatheadinc wrote: The units arnt designed for a chopped wave but work great wired in as designed
thats some good info meat. Some I will take under my wing as I have my screen wired on the outside of the control currently.
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by rumdidlydum » Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:57 pm
Meatheadinc wrote:The digital volt/ amp meters only fail when given a chopped wave.. Eg if you run them after the controller.
If you run it before it will give you the available volts ( will vary daily) and the amp you are drawing. ( varies with controller)
Volt * amps = watts. so ypu still know whats going on.
The units arnt designed for a chopped wave but work great wired in as designed
Great info meat il remember that one for when i replace them.
One question though they have a range of from memory 80 to 240v. I thought as long as i stayed above the min voltage i would be okay.
When you say choped wave does the psr modify the wave so that it screws the component? At below normal wall outlet voltage.
Again thanks for your input otherwise i would have just fried more components.
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by rumdidlydum » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:54 pm
I maaged to desolder and replace the 2 resistors on both screans and re wired them. Cost me 60c
Thanks meat :handgestures-thumbupleft: :happy-partydance:
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by Doubleuj » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:54 pm
Good work rummi :clap: :clap:
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by Doubleuj » Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:01 pm
Do you reckon you could update your parts list for those of us that are considerably electrically challenged? 8-}
Maybe some links etc for what ssr/ scr etc etc
And explain the Nokia charger??? What the???
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by Meatheadinc » Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:21 pm
rumdidlydum wrote:When you say choped wave does the psr modify the wave so that it screws the component?
Yes mate Glad you got it sorted.
Doubleuj wrote:explain the Nokia charger??? What the???
A phone charger is a cheap easy way of sourcing a dc power source for cooling fans etc.
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by Doubleuj » Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:33 pm
So if you had a fan that ran on ac then you wouldn't need it, or are all small fans dc?
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by Meatheadinc » Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:31 pm
240vac fans are available
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by rumdidlydum » Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:36 pm
Doubleuj wrote:Do you reckon you could update your parts list for those of us that are considerably electrically challenged? 8-}
Maybe some links etc for what ssr/ scr etc etc
And explain the Nokia charger??? What the???
I'll write up a list when i get time. But from memory 40amp ssr 1watt.
1watt pots. Haha and yes an old phone charger. I had 2 pc fans already. Im pretty sure 12v fans are much cheaper than 240v ones
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by bluc » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:58 pm
I just bought a 240v fan 120mm for about $25 from ebay comes with a power cord plugs straight into wall :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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by rumdidlydum » Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:06 pm
Have u got a link? I would internally wire it to the controller. Otherwise you will have wires and plugs going everywhere :teasing-tease:
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by bluc » Thu Jul 23, 2015 6:40 pm
Ebay item 281717245422 item has ended so not sure if you can see it. For sure will be cutting plug off and wiring into the circuit internally. Atm trying to track down a box to put it all in. :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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by rumdidlydum » Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:34 pm
Looks good abit pricey but will do the job perfectly
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by bluc » Fri Jul 24, 2015 6:52 pm
Hey rum where did you get your project box having a hard time finding one deep enough to suit the 120mm fan without going excessively big in other dimensions. :angry-banghead:
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by rumdidlydum » Fri Jul 24, 2015 8:12 pm
Work donated it to me. Try the scrappys for old 1st aid boxes.
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by bluc » Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:42 am
rumdidlydum wrote:Work donated it to me. Try the scrappys for old 1st aid boxes.
Great idea thanks :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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by scythe » Sat Jul 25, 2015 1:37 pm
I like the idea of using an old ammo box, surely it will all fit into a 100rnd 5.56 linked box.
or even the 7.62 linked boxes.
no need to fork outega dosh for a 50cal one.
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by rumdidlydum » Fri Jul 31, 2015 6:57 pm
I'm thinking of future proofing my boiler. What i want to do is have my second 2400w element to serve two functions
1 so i can run 2 elements for heat up time and stripping.
2 so i can control a mash temp by recirculating hot water at a consistent temp.
My thoughts is with a pid temp controller running a ssr would be tho go :think:
Obviously i will have to dial up the temp when using it to strip so it doesn't cut in and out. Then drop it back to a preset temp for heat up time only.
This way i can have one controller that can serve as several functions.
This is only at the planning stage. Am i on the right track?
The pid i was looking at is this one from ebay 121571911304
Any input apreciated :D
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by Meatheadinc » Fri Jul 31, 2015 7:53 pm
PIDs are great and can be used for many functions. although I have found that they are better for control items rather than heating elements.
EG. For mashing. element is on ( uncontrolled) in a HERMS, the PID controls mash flow and hence mash temp via solenoid/proportional valve, variable speed pump etc.
It is fairly easy to wire an element though the PID with an element only bypass allowing you to have PID controlled element, or element on full functions, if your after a single vessel mash controller and secondary element that may be the go ( depending on the PID you should also have full power control too. probably PWM)
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by bluc » Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:29 pm
Hey rum another dumb question :oops:
that trip switch i linked to couple posts up can they be wired direct or do I have to buy a "caddy" that it slots into that can be wired. It has a din rail profile so thinking i dont need anything else besides a rail to mount to. Just making sure i have everything before i get it all wired up btw im not the one putting it together..
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