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Re: Distillation Conditioner? HBS myth or necessary?

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 4:43 am
by Al Qaemist
I've used defoaming agents and they seem to work (I believe they are used commercially too), the one I've tried contained "silicone and propylene glycol".

As stated above if going a neutral wash, if you let it finish dry and clear it then I wouldn't bother, never had one like that puke even filling the boiler almost to the top. If you can't get it completely dry then I add it as these tend to puke.
When doing a rum I want to reuse the dunder so don't want that stuff in the next generation so I use butter and lots of head space in the still.

The anti-foam do have their place, just depends what your running imho.

Re: Distillation Conditioner? HBS myth or necessary?

PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 9:43 am
by Goldie
Thanks guys for the info, more dollars you have saved me 8-)

Re: Distillation Conditioner? HBS myth or necessary?

PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 1:29 pm
by audistiller
I have emailed the manufacturer for a breakdown of the ingredients in the Still Spirits brand, I am now waiting for a second reply so I will post all the info when I have it.

Re: Distillation Conditioner? HBS myth or necessary?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:03 am
by stilly_bugger
With the Ultra Pure still the standard procedure is (1) ferment, (2) run through reflux head. If you're running washes that aren't entirely clear and you're not using distilling condition, you may get puke.

The problem: you're most likely decanting straight from your fermentation contain into your boiler. You're gonna to get some yeast sediment into your boiler, even if it's only a little bit.

Easy solutions: (1) once your brew has finished fermenting 'rack it off' into another container and let it settle. I let mine settle for 3 weeks once fermentation has finished. Don't rush. (2) add a few stainless steel scrubbers to the wash in the boiler before you start heating. If you do both of these things, you won't need to use distilling conditioner.

Best,

Stilly.

Re: Distillation Conditioner? HBS myth or necessary?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:28 pm
by Brendan
5Star wrote:After that i started the practise of adding wash to my spirit runs that has been taken up by so many around the world.


5Star,

I thought I had read a lot, and I haven't come across this yet...

Can you give an idea to the amount you add in (percentage vs. low wines)?

Thanks :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Distillation Conditioner? HBS myth or necessary?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:35 pm
by BackyardBrewer
Well I ran my TPW wash of 25L just this morning with no conditioner and it was fine. I did let it settle for a good two and a half weeks before running it so nice and clear and no puke in the column.

So more money wasted on that stuff for me, I reckon if I was using turbo yeast I would, but a nice clean TPW was fine.

Re: Distillation Conditioner? HBS myth or necessary?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 3:54 pm
by R-sole
Brendan wrote:
5Star wrote:After that i started the practise of adding wash to my spirit runs that has been taken up by so many around the world.


5Star,

I thought I had read a lot, and I haven't come across this yet...

Can you give an idea to the amount you add in (percentage vs. low wines)?

Thanks :handgestures-thumbupleft:


10-20% is what i use.

Take a read of this thread for some indepth chat..(and some plain old shit chucking :laughing-rolling: )

http://www.artisan-distiller.net/phpBB3 ... f=10&t=403