Optimal length of boka 2inch column

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Optimal length of boka 2inch column

Postby Vickypoint2003 » Sat Jun 10, 2023 10:12 am

Hi guys what do you reckon.
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Re: Optimal length of boka 2inch column

Postby juana_b » Sat Jun 10, 2023 10:44 am

20-24 times the diameter. Also the type of packing will change the hetp.
2" Boka is slow though. I have one. Be ready for an all-day run if trying for a neutral.
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Re: Optimal length of boka 2inch column

Postby Vickypoint2003 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 3:39 pm

Thanks for the info.
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Re: Optimal length of boka 2inch column

Postby bluc » Mon Jun 12, 2023 3:46 pm

Do 3" if ya can you wont be dissatisfied...
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Re: Optimal length of boka 2inch column

Postby pistagain » Sun Jun 25, 2023 1:36 pm

Hi
I am interested in a couple of points made above regarding distilling time and was wondering if anyone could resolve my confusion. My understanding is that for neutral one needs to do it slowly, drip, drip, dribble or what ever. Now I understand that the wider the diameter of the column the faster the distilling process. However, given the need to distill at a slow rate anyway, what is the point of a larger diameter column? Or am I missing something here?
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Re: Optimal length of boka 2inch column

Postby bluc » Sun Jun 25, 2023 3:36 pm

You had it first time faster run time. Yes a reflux generally you run slower then a pot but increasing diameter speeds up neutral run. 2"vs 3" is night and day if your building do 3"...
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Re: Optimal length of boka 2inch column

Postby RuddyCrazy » Sun Jun 25, 2023 3:49 pm

I have setup my modular system to a 4" pot still for stripping and 40 litres of wash was done in under 3 hours from first heatup, now doing the same amount of wash in a 2" would take close to a day to get thru. So what bluc says about going 3" is good advise so go that way and you won't be disappointed.

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Re: Optimal length of boka 2inch column

Postby The Stig » Sun Jun 25, 2023 5:01 pm

Stick a standard size straw into 200ml water and see how long it takes to suck up the water .
Now, stick one of those huge bubble tea straws into the same amount of water and see how much quicker it come up.
Science experiment finished :laughing-rolling:
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Re: Optimal length of boka 2inch column

Postby pistagain » Sun Jun 25, 2023 6:47 pm

Thanks for the replies. I understand that for the purposes of a stripping run a larger diameter would be better because the idea is to run hard and fast. But I guess you are also saying that it is also OK to run a neutral spirit run faster if doing it through a 3" as opposed to a 2". I currently do a spirit run through a 2" boka style column and it is true to say that a 45Litre @ 40% ABV run takes a hell of a long time. However that is because I adjust the flow control way down. I could open it up and do the same run in less than half the time but I always thought that that would result in an inferior product. At the moment I get 10 -11 litres of hearts @ around 93 - 94% ABV.
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Re: Optimal length of boka 2inch column

Postby The Stig » Sun Jun 25, 2023 7:35 pm

The long and short of it is :
Bigger diameter will allow for faster runs
There’s a lot more to it but that’s the crux of it
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Re: Optimal length of boka 2inch column

Postby pistagain » Sun Jul 16, 2023 6:20 pm

Thanks guys.
So does anyone know where I can get a 3" Boka style still? I can't weld for nuts so I would need to source a complete one. I can't find one on the 5SD site.
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Re: Optimal length of boka 2inch column

Postby The Stig » Sun Jul 16, 2023 9:09 pm

We tried a 4” Boka but it didn’t perform as expected so abandoned the idea and stuck to the 2”
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Re: Optimal length of boka 2inch column

Postby BigRig » Sun Jul 16, 2023 9:47 pm

The Stig wrote:We tried a 4” Boka but it didn’t perform as expected so abandoned the idea and stuck to the 2”


I have often wondered where the 4" boka went. Did it sell ?
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Re: Optimal length of boka 2inch column

Postby The Stig » Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:18 am

It did sell to a member down south , can’t remember his username sorry
We figured using a 500mm packed section and the deflag was a better option
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Re: Optimal length of boka 2inch column

Postby pistagain » Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:41 pm

I was thinking something similar. Would a packed section (or 2) and a reflux condenser on the 4″ Modular Pot Still produce a decent neutral?
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Re: Optimal length of boka 2inch column

Postby The Stig » Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:36 pm

Yes it will
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Re: Optimal length of boka 2inch column

Postby MattSmith » Mon Jul 17, 2023 9:10 pm

pistagain wrote:I was thinking something similar. Would a packed section (or 2) and a reflux condenser on the 4″ Modular Pot Still produce a decent neutral?


That's exactly what I run and I'm drinking a kale vodka made using it on the rocks right now!

500mm packed section - 3 rolls of copper mesh + 1kg of copper spp
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Re: Optimal length of boka 2inch column

Postby christoth » Fri Dec 22, 2023 2:01 am

I can't weld for nuts so I would need to source a complete one.


As someone who can't really weld myself, you can get away some basic welds now a days just by watching YouTube and picking up a simple DIY welder :smile: I'm loving the VIPER 185 (https://www.alphaweld.com.au/product/19427-unimig-viper-185-mig-tig-stick-welder) I got last Christmas and have been able to use it on several home distiller projects.
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Re: Optimal length of boka 2inch column

Postby Wellsy » Fri Dec 22, 2023 4:41 am

Welcome Christoff
Why not pop into the welcome centre and tell us a bit about yourself mate, what sort of gear you have and what you are hoping to produce etc
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