Replacing T500 Column with FSD parts

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Replacing T500 Column with FSD parts

Postby Professor Green » Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:09 pm

Hey folks,

Looking for a good starting point for replacing the T500 column and, given that it is essentially just a packed column with a cooling coil at the end, was thinking that adding a 4" reflux condenser and a 4" packed section from FSD to the 4" pot still would be a a good way to go (once the packed sections become available again).

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Re: Replacing T500 Column with FSD parts

Postby Zak Griffin » Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:15 pm

Don't you have a 100L boiler on the way? :think:
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Re: Replacing T500 Column with FSD parts

Postby Professor Green » Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:30 pm

Yes I do. I also have a 4" pot on the way with it.

I currently have the t500 boiler, alembic dome & condenser and the t500 column. The 4" pot should replace the t500 alembic and I am looking to replace the column at some point in the not too distant future.

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Re: Replacing T500 Column with FSD parts

Postby Zak Griffin » Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:32 pm

Neutralizer! :)
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Re: Replacing T500 Column with FSD parts

Postby Professor Green » Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:40 pm

Ultimately YES!!!!

Just looking for a good way to get there from where I am today. I figured starting with the packed section and a reflux condenser I could replicate the t500 column functionality with something a little more solid and then I could expand on that with SG Tees further down the track. Am I barking up the wrong tree?

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Re: Replacing T500 Column with FSD parts

Postby WTDist » Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:45 pm

I think its a good idea. When i piss my T500 off i plan on replicating the reflux with a 500mm packed section and reflux condenser into a shotgun all in 6". I think it will be good as a reflux like the T500 and still be a viable pot. I dont think it will reach azeo but i only get about 92% with my T500 anyway. Larger diameter means faster runs so that's caught my eye

So if you want a faster reflux than the T500 to go on your 100L boiler then i say go for it :handgestures-thumbupleft: , add the packed section and the RC. You might get 2 to 2.5L per hour @ 92% (maybe) with a 4" and still be able to do strip n spirit runs. Then add tees as you can afford or make them
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Re: Replacing T500 Column with FSD parts

Postby Zak Griffin » Thu Jun 04, 2015 2:06 pm

WTDist, are you going to run a 6" diameter column on a T500 boiler?

Diameter = speed, but speed is also limited by power... Not sure how well a 6" reflux still will hold up with only 2000W up it...
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Re: Replacing T500 Column with FSD parts

Postby WTDist » Thu Jun 04, 2015 2:55 pm

Lol no i wont :laughing-rolling: by the time i do this i hope to build it slowly then sell the t500 boiler and all to fund the keg and fsd elements. it will be in the distant future though. itl b basic but it should work. i figure 2 2400W will be enough for a reflux run with low wines. its still in the planing though 8-}
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Re: Replacing T500 Column with FSD parts

Postby Professor Green » Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:16 am

After a bit if a chat with Mac yesterday (thanks Mac), it was determined that I would probably not have enough height in the column when using a single packed section and the reflux condenser to achieve a decent result. The alternative suggestion was to persevere with the T500 column for the moment as it does do fairly reasonable job on neutrals and to start building up a neutraliser by adding SG Tees to the 4" pot to increase the ABV on the stripping/flavour runs and then add the packed section and reflux condenser once I had amassed the required number of Tees.

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Re: Replacing T500 Column with FSD parts

Postby Zak Griffin » Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:23 am

A solid plan :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Replacing T500 Column with FSD parts

Postby Professor Green » Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:39 am

Yep!

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Re: Replacing T500 Column with FSD parts

Postby Swisswa » Tue Jun 09, 2015 12:44 pm

The neutralizer is the way to go! The quality of the spirit significantly better compared to the T500
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Re: Replacing T500 Column with FSD parts

Postby Professor Green » Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:03 pm

Looking forward to experiencing that in person in the not too distant future then I can pass T500 column and pot on to some one a little less picky than myself.

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