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My Spiral Prismatic Packing (SPP) arrived

Postby hoochlover » Fri Oct 16, 2015 1:18 pm

I can't remember how much I ordered, I thought it was 4 litres but I ended up getting what appeared to be nearly 5 litres of it. The stuff is heavy! I've got it rolling in some ethanol now to clean the cutting oil which is on it. It's funny how you can put liquid on this stuff which looks solid/stable and it just disappears into it with nearly no resistance. I've never really seen anything like it before.
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Re: My Spiral Prismatic Packing (SPP) arrived

Postby WalterWhite » Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:24 pm

Looks very interesting mate. Almost looks like hundreds and thousands! Weird.
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Re: My Spiral Prismatic Packing (SPP) arrived

Postby WTDist » Fri Oct 16, 2015 10:46 pm

Is it expensive. looks good
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Re: My Spiral Prismatic Packing (SPP) arrived

Postby hoochlover » Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:07 am

Here's a video with me pouring some metho on it. The stuff is so heavy it doesn't really move and the liquid goes down like theres no resistance. Pretty cool.


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Re: My Spiral Prismatic Packing (SPP) arrived

Postby hoochlover » Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:14 am

WTDist wrote:Is it expensive. looks good


Can't remember what I paid, 300 or 400 something like that. But you wouldn't need that much for a 2 inch or 1.5 inch column. I also got enough to pack a metre of column which isn't really needed for how I do things either (2 distils). If I had my time over I'd go with a 2 inch column, 3inch is just a bit crazy powerful for what I need. But hey, maybe in the future I'll be doing fuel or something... you never know with the way the world is going these days. I kinda look at the still like some investment in an alternative future, besides the short term goals too. :)
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Re: My Spiral Prismatic Packing (SPP) arrived

Postby _TK_ » Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:07 pm

Looks very interesting, would love to hear how it performs, compare to your current packing..
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Re: My Spiral Prismatic Packing (SPP) arrived

Postby maddogpearse » Tue Oct 20, 2015 10:13 pm

Why did you pore metho on it? Huge alarm bells ringing in my head!
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Re: My Spiral Prismatic Packing (SPP) arrived

Postby hoochlover » Tue Oct 20, 2015 10:56 pm

maddogpearse wrote:Why did you pore metho on it? Huge alarm bells ringing in my head!


Because it's like 95% ethanol and a good way to clean stainless steel of oil? Is there something wrong with this?
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Re: My Spiral Prismatic Packing (SPP) arrived

Postby scythe » Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:20 am

Probably the poison they add to the 95% ethanol so that its "un-drinkable".
But then all you need to do is boil it in water to remove the metho.
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Postby sp0rk » Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:06 am

scythe wrote:Probably the poison they add to the 95% ethanol so that its "un-drinkable".
But then all you need to do is boil it in water to remove the metho.

From what I know, there is no poison in Diggers brand metho
As per their MSDS, it's 95% ethanol and 5% water
However I'm willing to bet there's around .1% bittering agents to make it taste disgusting
http://www.recochem.com.au/files/downlo ... _Dec14.pdf
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Re: My Spiral Prismatic Packing (SPP) arrived

Postby maddogpearse » Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:31 am

I don't know, I've just always heard "NEVER put denatured ethanol anywhere near stills.
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Postby WTDist » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:54 am

look on your metho bottles.

they say methylated spirits which could mean 95% ethanol and .5% metho or 50/50 but as it states 'methylated spirits'. i read years ago some poison is added too...
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Postby jacobraven » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:56 am

Metho is just 95% ethanol 5% methanol essential the reason you remove foreshots to rid the wood alcohol. The poison is methanol.
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Re: My Spiral Prismatic Packing (SPP) arrived

Postby hoochlover » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:36 am

There is cutting oil on the SPP, which is probably as dangerous as any poison which may be in the metho. The idea is to get the stuff free from oil, then rinse them well with other cleaning agents, then run vinegar and finally a low wines "pure" ethanol through it.

I hope no one would use anything washed in metho straight in a still.
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Postby WTDist » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:44 am

hoochlover wrote:I hope no one would use anything washed in metho straight in a still.

i would in the sense that i throw away fores and take extreme cuts. if metho is still on the still it will burn off first with fores and heads, low boiling point remember. i would only be concerned if i was not doing cuts
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Postby sp0rk » Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:06 pm

jacobraven wrote:Metho is just 95% ethanol 5% methanol essential the reason you remove foreshots to rid the wood alcohol. The poison is methanol.

If you're buying Digger's metho (it's what most places in Aus sell), as per my link to their MSDS it's only ethanol and water
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Re: My Spiral Prismatic Packing (SPP) arrived

Postby woodduck » Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:41 pm

Why are you buying metho? Don't we produce it every time we run the still? I've got that much methanol/ heads I don't know what to do with it :wtf:
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Re: My Spiral Prismatic Packing (SPP) arrived

Postby WTDist » Wed Oct 21, 2015 1:08 pm

woodduck wrote:Why are you buying metho? Don't we produce it every time we run the still? I've got that much methanol/ heads I don't know what to do with it :wtf:

:text-+1:
i give mine away to tradie mates for cleaning on the job n what not (heads).

when i collect fores now i just tip it down the drain. i have no use for it, i have pleanty
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Postby 1 2many » Wed Oct 21, 2015 1:13 pm

The one down side to this SSP is that it won't be any good for removing sulphides. ;-)
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Postby P3T3rPan » Wed Oct 21, 2015 1:18 pm

1 2many wrote:The one down side to this SSP is that it won't be any good for removing sulphides. ;-)

Unless you make it with copper
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