P3T3rPan wrote:Could easy be a shit washer. DIY and all that
But yeah, what he said, brass is sus until proven otherwise
rumdidlydum wrote:Char dust setled on the bottom :think:
The reason why brass is not used is because that most if not all of it contains lead. At high % it may leach out into the product. :smile:
rumdidlydum wrote:Char dust setled on the bottom :think:
The reason why brass is not used is because that most if not all of it contains lead. At high % it may leach out into the product. :smile:
xcvator wrote:rumdidlydum wrote:Char dust setled on the bottom :think:
The reason why brass is not used is because that most if not all of it contains lead. At high % it may leach out into the product. :smile:
Not any more, bismuth is now used in ALL brass either manufactured here or imported into Australia and most other countries now. You'll probably breathe in more lead walking the dog for 10 minutes :cool:
hopefully.You'll probably breathe in more lead walking the dog for 10 minutes
xcvator wrote:rumdidlydum wrote:Sam. wrote:Was the barrel charred? Maybe some of that coming through :think:
Char dust setled on the bottom :think:
The reason why brass is not used is because that most if not all of it contains lead. At high % it may leach out into the product. :smile:
Not any more, bismuth is now used in ALL brass either manufactured here or imported into Australia and most other countries now. You'll probably breathe in more lead walking the dog for 10 minutes :cool:
tipsy wrote:Fishws wrote:put into oak barrels with a few raisins. Drew off a shot over the weekend and the first bit that came through the tap had a dark discolouration to it
Could it just be the deteriorated raisins? :think:
Sam. wrote:xcvator wrote:rumdidlydum wrote:Sam. wrote:Was the barrel charred? Maybe some of that coming through :think:
Char dust setled on the bottom :think:
The reason why brass is not used is because that most if not all of it contains lead. At high % it may leach out into the product. :smile:
Not any more, bismuth is now used in ALL brass either manufactured here or imported into Australia and most other countries now. You'll probably breathe in more lead walking the dog for 10 minutes :cool:
Hey xcvator would you have a reference for that at all? Interested as this argument comes up from time to time and it always comes back to it probably has trace amounts of lead. :-B
Sorry for the thread hijack fish I can split this topic to clean it up if need be :handgestures-thumbupleft:
1 2many wrote:That's your call mate and if your happy with it go nuts.
We at Aussie Distillers try to enforce safe and health practices so we won't encourage members to use brass in there setup and that won't be changed.
You can calculate all you want but it won't wash here. ;-)
up to you matexcvator wrote:Sam. wrote:I breath coal dustxcvator wrote:rumdidlydum wrote:Sam. wrote:Was the barrel charred? Maybe some of that coming through :think:
Char dust setled on the bottom :think:
The reason why brass is not used is because that most if not all of it contains lead. At high % it may leach out into the product. :smile:
Not any more, bismuth is now used in ALL brass either manufactured here or imported into Australia and most other countries now. You'll probably breathe in more lead walking the dog for 10 minutes :cool:
Hey xcvator would you have a reference for that at all? Interested as this comes up from time to time and it always comes back to it probably has trace amounts of lead. :-B
Sorry for the thread hijack fish I can split this topic to clean it up if need be :handgestures-thumbupleft:
No problem with finding references, just google "lead free brass" with the addendum "bismuth "
Since 2014 ALL brass potable water fittings must have less than or equal to no more than .25% lead , so just out of interest I just weighed an olive from a 15mm brass union, it weighed 6 gms , so under the old regs that could have up to .48gms of lead, under the new/current regulations it can only have .015 gms of lead. yes lead
So lets have a look at that,
old regulations
.48 gms of lead :scared-eek: if that leaches out 10% each time I run the still I get .048 gms of lead to ingest ( but after 10 runs there's no more lead )
new regulations
.015gms of lead, still leadif that leaches out 100% on the 1st run of wash at 10% and I get 5 litres @ 90% abv and I then dilute that to 40% for drinking I have 11.5 litres or 11500 mils this will result in a contamination level of .00013043 ppm or .13043 ppb which is WAY under the US EPA action level of 15 ppb (http://www.portlandoregon.gov/water/article/244813 ) & ( http://water.epa.gov/drink/contaminants/index.cfm#one )but it still has lead
So, do I feel comfortable drinking etoh that's been in contact with brass fittings, :))
Will I continue to drink it 8-} 8-} :laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling:
rumdidlydum wrote:up to you matexcvator wrote:Sam. wrote:I breath coal dustxcvator wrote:rumdidlydum wrote:Sam. wrote:Was the barrel charred? Maybe some of that coming through :think:
Char dust setled on the bottom :think:
The reason why brass is not used is because that most if not all of it contains lead. At high % it may leach out into the product. :smile:
Not any more, bismuth is now used in ALL brass either manufactured here or imported into Australia and most other countries now. You'll probably breathe in more lead walking the dog for 10 minutes :cool:
Hey xcvator would you have a reference for that at all? Interested as this comes up from time to time and it always comes back to it probably has trace amounts of lead. :-B
Sorry for the thread hijack fish I can split this topic to clean it up if need be :handgestures-thumbupleft:
No problem with finding references, just google "lead free brass" with the addendum "bismuth "
Since 2014 ALL brass potable water fittings must have less than or equal to no more than .25% lead , so just out of interest I just weighed an olive from a 15mm brass union, it weighed 6 gms , so under the old regs that could have up to .48gms of lead, under the new/current regulations it can only have .015 gms of lead. yes lead
So lets have a look at that,
old regulations
.48 gms of lead :scared-eek: if that leaches out 10% each time I run the still I get .048 gms of lead to ingest ( but after 10 runs there's no more lead )
new regulations
.015gms of lead, still leadif that leaches out 100% on the 1st run of wash at 10% and I get 5 litres @ 90% abv and I then dilute that to 40% for drinking I have 11.5 litres or 11500 mils this will result in a contamination level of .00013043 ppm or .13043 ppb which is WAY under the US EPA action level of 15 ppb (http://www.portlandoregon.gov/water/article/244813 ) & ( http://water.epa.gov/drink/contaminants/index.cfm#one )but it still has lead
So, do I feel comfortable drinking etoh that's been in contact with brass fittings, :))
Will I continue to drink it 8-} 8-} :laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling:
You will probably notice that the quality stills dont have brass even to this day.
, but if you look closely at some cheap rigs you will see that some components are lead, I wonder why that is :think: maybe because the the cheaper units are out to make a buck, not really caring whether if the brass is maybe from a factory that only has a small portion of lead in the end product, or not. You dont know.
here have an apple with.015gms of lead :puke-huge:
Where as a quality still doesn't have brass hmmm. I wonder why
Is it that the quality one, doesn't care that if it only has a very small amount they still wont include it in the build because its a small amount and the potential is still there and they rather not to maintain a quality product.
I know where you stand and I know where I stand. :O)
WTDist wrote:rumdidlydum wrote:up to you matexcvator wrote:Sam. wrote:I breath coal dustxcvator wrote:rumdidlydum wrote:Sam. wrote:Was the barrel charred? Maybe some of that coming through :think:
Char dust setled on the bottom :think:
The reason why brass is not used is because that most if not all of it contains lead. At high % it may leach out into the product. :smile:
Not any more, bismuth is now used in ALL brass either manufactured here or imported into Australia and most other countries now. You'll probably breathe in more lead walking the dog for 10 minutes :cool:
Hey xcvator would you have a reference for that at all? Interested as this comes up from time to time and it always comes back to it probably has trace amounts of lead. :-B
Sorry for the thread hijack fish I can split this topic to clean it up if need be :handgestures-thumbupleft:
No problem with finding references, just google "lead free brass" with the addendum "bismuth "
Since 2014 ALL brass potable water fittings must have less than or equal to no more than .25% lead , so just out of interest I just weighed an olive from a 15mm brass union, it weighed 6 gms , so under the old regs that could have up to .48gms of lead, under the new/current regulations it can only have .015 gms of lead. yes lead
So lets have a look at that,
old regulations
.48 gms of lead :scared-eek: if that leaches out 10% each time I run the still I get .048 gms of lead to ingest ( but after 10 runs there's no more lead )
new regulations
.015gms of lead, still leadif that leaches out 100% on the 1st run of wash at 10% and I get 5 litres @ 90% abv and I then dilute that to 40% for drinking I have 11.5 litres or 11500 mils this will result in a contamination level of .00013043 ppm or .13043 ppb which is WAY under the US EPA action level of 15 ppb (http://www.portlandoregon.gov/water/article/244813 ) & ( http://water.epa.gov/drink/contaminants/index.cfm#one )but it still has lead
So, do I feel comfortable drinking etoh that's been in contact with brass fittings, :))
Will I continue to drink it 8-} 8-} :laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling:
You will probably notice that the quality stills dont have brass even to this day.
, but if you look closely at some cheap rigs you will see that some components are lead, I wonder why that is :think: maybe because the the cheaper units are out to make a buck, not really caring whether if the brass is maybe from a factory that only has a small portion of lead in the end product, or not. You dont know.
here have an apple with.015gms of lead :puke-huge:
Where as a quality still doesn't have brass hmmm. I wonder why
Is it that the quality one, doesn't care that if it only has a very small amount they still wont include it in the build because its a small amount and the potential is still there and they rather not to maintain a quality product.
I know where you stand and I know where I stand. :O)
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lets look at the facts.
water is water.
ethanol is a solvent that leaches chemicals
0.015g of lead in brass in a water supply system is much safer than in a high % alcohol solution. We don't actually know
alcohol strips while water doesnt.WRONG WRONG WRONG
any lead is bad lead. True
stay lead free
those brass taps are made for water systems not stills and alcohol storage devices ;-) The lead in them leaches out just the same
I know where i stand
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