Beware Brewshop Weldless Elements

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Re: Beware Brewshop Weldless Elements

Postby Andy » Fri Oct 31, 2014 1:11 pm

hey jord.
interesting, i might check mine out. interestingly enough the replacement i got sent was different to my first element and i have been running it for 20 months now and its been going fine.
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Re: Beware Brewshop Weldless Elements

Postby jord4231 » Fri Oct 31, 2014 1:26 pm

Yeh that would be good let us know. That aside its running well still
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Re: Beware Brewshop Weldless Elements

Postby benpandaae86 » Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:01 am

My kk 2200w element died last night so i ordered one of macs 3600w elements this mornin
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Re: Beware Brewshop Weldless Elements

Postby 1 2many » Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:38 am

benpandaae86 wrote:My kk 2200w element died last night so i ordered one of macs 3600w elements this mornin


I take it you have a 15 amp supply for that 3.6 kw element mate. :think:
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Re: Beware Brewshop Weldless Elements

Postby benpandaae86 » Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:24 pm

Yeah in my shed my welders 15 amp as well
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Re: Beware Brewshop Weldless Elements

Postby jord4231 » Tue Nov 11, 2014 11:05 pm

Any one else got a chance to check their kk element earth yet? :scared-eek:
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Re: Beware Brewshop Weldless Elements

Postby OzKev » Wed Nov 12, 2014 7:52 am

jord4231 wrote:Any one else got a chance to check their kk element earth yet? :scared-eek:


I checked 2 of the old model and 1 of the new model, all had continuity to earth.
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Re: Beware Brewshop Weldless Elements

Postby jord4231 » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:41 am

Mine must be dodgy then :handgestures-thumbdown: ive earthed my boiler directly for now
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Re: Beware Brewshop Weldless Elements

Postby Bushy » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:53 am

Not a concern for me because the fucker blew last week. Goin to have to change my details
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Re: Beware Brewshop Weldless Elements

Postby sp0rk » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:33 am

I had a look at the latest version yesterday at my LHBS
It's fully sealed and has rubber molded over the terminal end, which hopefully should eliminate all the problems they've had with moisture ingress and earth leakage/shorting
That being said I won't be buying another one, everything I've bought from KK lately has been pretty average and I'm happy to spend the bit extra for parts like Mac's elements since i'm guaranteed quality from the get go
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Re: Beware Brewshop Weldless Elements

Postby Triangle » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:33 am

jord4231 wrote:Mine must be dodgy then :handgestures-thumbdown: ive earthed my boiler directly for now


This is actually a good idea.

Almost every appliance with heating; dishwasher, oven, cooktop, etc that has exposed metal has the element earthed as well as the exposed metal sections of the frame regardless of whether the element mounting provides earth continuity to the frame.
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Re: Beware Brewshop Weldless Elements

Postby OzKev » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:40 am

sp0rk wrote:I had a look at the latest version yesterday at my LHBS
It's fully sealed and has rubber molded over the terminal end, which hopefully should eliminate all the problems they've had with moisture ingress and earth leakage/shorting
That being said I won't be buying another one, everything I've bought from KK lately has been pretty average and I'm happy to spend the bit extra for parts like Mac's elements since i'm guaranteed quality from the get go



I cut one of my new model ones open. I'm guessing it wasn't a water issue more an overheating issue with mine. Where the wires join always causes heating, and these are sealed so it cannot cool. I'm with you on staying away from that place, if I want cheap Chinese gear I have ebay.
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Re: Beware Brewshop Weldless Elements

Postby sp0rk » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:55 am

I bought one of their co2 manifolds and one of the ball valves was leaking at the thread where it screwed into the main block
I went to remove it to add in some thread tape and found they must use a liquid thread locker and it took a fair amount of force to remove
the brass that's used it terrible and it just marked up incredibly easy
I got it apart and back together eventually but with a lot of swearing and marking
I'm buying some of their stainless camlocks in the next week or so because I figure they're going to be the same as anything I get from China on fleabay, but after that I think I'm done
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Re: Beware Brewshop Weldless Elements

Postby sp0rk » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:57 am

also if they're over heating near the terminals, the solid wire pins that connect to the internal spiral are way too short and the design needs fixing
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