Hull brew wrote:Hi Peter, thanks for your comments.
Firstly no worries, I don;t feel Ive been lead astray, if anything it's my beginners over enthusiasm.
I tried a couple last night, watered to 43% - it was OK but lacking that (and here my words let me down) that 'zing'.
There is a juniper aroma, do doubt.
I think I may leave star anise out on the next trial, also nutmeg.From your reply, I think I got the packing of the 'haggis' about right.
Ive smelled the residual botanicals and there is little identifiable remaining, so looks like all the good stuff has been extracted.
Without boring you with the vol/temp/% (I kept notes throughout), I can say I stopped at 20%, when the output was an occasional drip.
Still temp rose to 98C at this point.
Last two 150ml collections were at 30 and 20% and were slightly cloudy.
I mixed them all together as the tails had some earthy junipery flavours.
I'll water down a small batch, leave for a few days and sample a few, purely in the name of science!
My thanks for your feedback
BSC_Kilby wrote:Hull brew wrote:Hi Peter, thanks for your comments.
Firstly no worries, I don;t feel Ive been lead astray, if anything it's my beginners over enthusiasm.
I tried a couple last night, watered to 43% - it was OK but lacking that (and here my words let me down) that 'zing'.
There is a juniper aroma, do doubt.
I think I may leave star anise out on the next trial, also nutmeg.From your reply, I think I got the packing of the 'haggis' about right.
Ive smelled the residual botanicals and there is little identifiable remaining, so looks like all the good stuff has been extracted.
Without boring you with the vol/temp/% (I kept notes throughout), I can say I stopped at 20%, when the output was an occasional drip.
Still temp rose to 98C at this point.
Last two 150ml collections were at 30 and 20% and were slightly cloudy.
I mixed them all together as the tails had some earthy junipery flavours.
I'll water down a small batch, leave for a few days and sample a few, purely in the name of science!
My thanks for your feedback
On resting, for mine, the average is 2 weeks at high proof (as it comes off the still, usually ~80%). It takes me at least a day to do dilution, making sure the spirit is agitated or pumped over itself for at least 3 hours. I let it rest overnight then bottle it.
Chocko6969 wrote:BSC_Kilby wrote:Hull brew wrote:Hi Peter, thanks for your comments.
Firstly no worries, I don;t feel Ive been lead astray, if anything it's my beginners over enthusiasm.
I tried a couple last night, watered to 43% - it was OK but lacking that (and here my words let me down) that 'zing'.
There is a juniper aroma, do doubt.
I think I may leave star anise out on the next trial, also nutmeg.From your reply, I think I got the packing of the 'haggis' about right.
Ive smelled the residual botanicals and there is little identifiable remaining, so looks like all the good stuff has been extracted.
Without boring you with the vol/temp/% (I kept notes throughout), I can say I stopped at 20%, when the output was an occasional drip.
Still temp rose to 98C at this point.
Last two 150ml collections were at 30 and 20% and were slightly cloudy.
I mixed them all together as the tails had some earthy junipery flavours.
I'll water down a small batch, leave for a few days and sample a few, purely in the name of science!
My thanks for your feedback
The thing I find it helps most with is haze. I don't often get haze in gin (louching if you want to call it that), But I have found that setting up a pump and pumping the gin over for a few hours allows for the gin to be more 'shelf stable' when it comes to haze. Basically it can get colder without forming a hze
On resting, for mine, the average is 2 weeks at high proof (as it comes off the still, usually ~80%). It takes me at least a day to do dilution, making sure the spirit is agitated or pumped over itself for at least 3 hours. I let it rest overnight then bottle it.
Hi Kilby, I've not read of agitating the Gin like this ( and I must have missed it coz I've read craploads ), does it help all the botanicals merge after distillation or something? Also, how do you do it, what setup?
Cheers,
Chocko
Commune wrote:I’m making good cuts and my bath tub gin recipe tastes good. I run it through my reflux and as expected it loses flavour. Is there a way to continue to use my reflux without removing the packers to get more flavour as i find the second run is almost flavourless?
Commune wrote:I’m making good cuts and my bath tub gin recipe tastes good. I run it through my reflux and as expected it loses flavour. Is there a way to continue to use my reflux without removing the packers to get more flavour as i find the second run is almost flavourless?
BSC_Kilby wrote:Hull brew wrote:Hi Peter, thanks for your comments.
Firstly no worries, I don;t feel Ive been lead astray, if anything it's my beginners over enthusiasm.
I tried a couple last night, watered to 43% - it was OK but lacking that (and here my words let me down) that 'zing'.
There is a juniper aroma, do doubt.
I think I may leave star anise out on the next trial, also nutmeg.From your reply, I think I got the packing of the 'haggis' about right.
Ive smelled the residual botanicals and there is little identifiable remaining, so looks like all the good stuff has been extracted.
Without boring you with the vol/temp/% (I kept notes throughout), I can say I stopped at 20%, when the output was an occasional drip.
Still temp rose to 98C at this point.
Last two 150ml collections were at 30 and 20% and were slightly cloudy.
I mixed them all together as the tails had some earthy junipery flavours.
I'll water down a small batch, leave for a few days and sample a few, purely in the name of science!
My thanks for your feedback
On resting, for mine, the average is 2 weeks at high proof (as it comes off the still, usually ~80%). It takes me at least a day to do dilution, making sure the spirit is agitated or pumped over itself for at least 3 hours. I let it rest overnight then bottle it.
Guyross wrote:I am sitting here minding my 10 litres of gin while it distills. I am attempting a modified Odin’s/great gin combo. I wanted to try putting it through my bubbler with a gin caddy, but I decided to use my T500 boiler with Alembic pot instead.
So I took 10 litres of 43% neutral, and macerated 200 grams juniper berries and 100 grams coriander and the zest from 4 lemons for 16 hours, dumped that in the boiler. In the gin basket I put 20 grams cassia, 20 grams liquorice root, 15 grams Angelica root, 2 grams orris powder, a few cardamom pods, some grains of paradise and some cubeb for a bit of bite, and off I went. I am distilling it slowly, and am hopeful it will be drinkable.
I chose this as it will allow me to run a number of different botanical combos without too much effort. If this works, I will simply adjust what goes in the infusion basket, and adjust the amount of juniper/coriander to taste based on this run. I can run smaller amounts easily in the boiler, so it is very handy for trying different combos. Next will be something with rose in it, and I want to try something Mediterranean- rosemary, olive leaf, etc.
So far so good. It smells like gin, anyway.
Guyross wrote:Guyross wrote:I am sitting here minding my 10 litres of gin while it distills. I am attempting a modified Odin’s/great gin combo. I wanted to try putting it through my bubbler with a gin caddy, but I decided to use my T500 boiler with Alembic pot instead.
So I took 10 litres of 43% neutral, and macerated 200 grams juniper berries and 100 grams coriander and the zest from 4 lemons for 16 hours, dumped that in the boiler. In the gin basket I put 20 grams cassia, 20 grams liquorice root, 15 grams Angelica root, 2 grams orris powder, a few cardamom pods, some grains of paradise and some cubeb for a bit of bite, and off I went. I am distilling it slowly, and am hopeful it will be drinkable.
I chose this as it will allow me to run a number of different botanical combos without too much effort. If this works, I will simply adjust what goes in the infusion basket, and adjust the amount of juniper/coriander to taste based on this run. I can run smaller amounts easily in the boiler, so it is very handy for trying different combos. Next will be something with rose in it, and I want to try something Mediterranean- rosemary, olive leaf, etc.
So far so good. It smells like gin, anyway.
Well, that was not an entire success. I overdid the juniper in the macerating. I had used 20g per litre in the vapour path technique and used the same for macerating. It is too much for me when macerated and boiled. I ended up having to cut it hard with neutral, and as a result lost a lot of the flavour of the milder botanicals. It is fine, but just a heavy juniper forward style. I will take some and redistill through some botanicals to try and get a bit of complexity going.
Live and learn. I think the technique is fine, but have to down adjust the juniper and coriander in the boiler/maceration.
warramungas wrote:This was my second 'odins gin' ive done. First one was amazeballs and was done via vapor infusion.
This second one was done with all the ingredients in the boiler and the flavor was not 'fresh' like the first one.
Used the same ingredients but more of a dull palate. Will be going back to vapor infusion.
Bottled it and then used butterfly pea flowers to color it blue. Color change effect is a fun novelty.
warramungas wrote:Only needed a few hours of soaking to get that deep blue color. Cant take a photo as back at work now.
Hopefully the color will last and not get denatured by the alcohol.
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