Hook Rum Recipe Discussion

[Kimbo]

Hi Greg, As you said, this wash won't clear.
just wait till it stops bubbling and run it :handgestures-thumbupleft:

[Greg1234]

Thank you !

[Whiskyaugogo]

Hi all,

Going to put a rum wash down on the weekend. Couple of questions;

1. After the first batch is stripped and dunder added to ferment no. 2, do I add more molasses or will the original amount carry through 5 or so generations?
2. I got a 3 lt of backstrap ( think that is what it is called) for around $27, is this around the cost of non feed product?

Yo ho ho :handgestures-thumbupleft:

[pulsetech]

No you need to add fresh molasses and sugar each time. Use the Dunder to melt your sugar and molasses (well thin it out). I don't reuse the yeast or lees I just use the hot dunder then top up to my required level with tap water. add yeast @ 28 - 32 degrees c

That's very expensive for feed stock grade I pay $18 for 20L and I think the food grade stuff is around $20 for 13kg's

[Whiskyaugogo]

No you need to add fresh molasses and sugar each time. Use the Dunder to melt your sugar and molasses (well thin it out). I don't reuse the yeast or lees I just use the hot dunder then top up to my required level with tap water. add yeast @ 28 - 32 degrees c

That's very expensive for feed stock grade I pay $18 for 20L and I think the food grade stuff is around $20 for 13kg's

It is organic (apparently)

http://www.ibrew.com.au/products/black- ... ed-organic

Thanks for the info pulse!

[Brendan]

2. I got a 3 lt of backstrap ( think that is what it is called) for around $27, is this around the cost of non feed product?

It is organic (apparently)

http://www.ibrew.com.au/products/black- ... ed-organic

Jesus mate, sorry but that's rubbish. What's worse is it's 3kg, which is about 2.15L :scared-eek:

Most guys buy blackstrap for less than $1 per litre, and the top grade refinery molasses (which would be identical to that ibrew stuff) is $20 for 10L (14kg). 'Organic' would be the same as it's just unsulphured and had nothing added to it...

So the top food grade molasses should be $2 per litre, whereas that stuff is $12.56 per litre!!! :o :handgestures-thumbdown:

[Sam.]

Most guys buy blackstrap for less than $1 per litre, and the top grade refinery molasses (which would be identical to that ibrew stuff) is $20 for 10L (14kg). 'Organic' would be the same as it's just unsulphured and had nothing added to it...

So the top food grade molasses should be $2 per litre, whereas that stuff is $12.56 per litre!!! :o :handgestures-thumbdown:

Wow!! :angry-banghead:

Any good online suppliers? I can check in Canberra but for some reason the ACT shops are exy to :scared-eek:

Thanks mate

[Kimbo]

I dunno if online is the way to go because Molasses is so heavy. There must be a stock feeders nearby? even some of the larger petshop chains sell it ;-)

[MacStill]

I think it's Powells stock feed in Phillip, somewhere around Dundas court will have it..... dunno if they're still there, it's been 10 yrs since I was in ACT

[Newbrew]

Powells is still good for supplys here in ACT so might be the way to go, spot on for location too Mac :text-+1:

[Whiskyaugogo]

Thanks Mac and Newy!!! Will drop by there tomorrow! :text-thankyoublue:

[Whiskyaugogo]

So I put down my first Rum today (mac's recipe) and wow! :scared-eek: so much activity!

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Looking forward to 5 weeks time and the final spirit run!!!!! :happy-partydance:

[Sinerjee]

So I put down my first Rum today (mac's recipe) and wow! :scared-eek: so much activity!

image.jpg

Looking forward to 5 weeks time and the final spirit run!!!!! :happy-partydance:

Looks like you have "so much room for activities" though...

[MacStill]

So I put down my first Rum today (mac's recipe) and wow! :scared-eek: so much activity!

image.jpg

Looking forward to 5 weeks time and the final spirit run!!!!! :happy-partydance:

Looks like you have "so much room for activities" though...

I'd doubt it by now if he's fermenting it warm :laughing-rolling:

[Whiskyaugogo]

Funny buggers :))

Always need room for activities :violin:

[Brendan]

So I put down my first Rum today (mac's recipe) and wow! :scared-eek: so much activity!

I put my first rum down the other day too, but had an opposite experience :p I used fancy molasses and clarified with a simple boil to remove any solids/sludge...there's no frothing at all...it's just like a constantly fizzy Coke :-D

[Whiskyaugogo]

Powells is still good for supplys here in ACT so might be the way to go, spot on for location too Mac :text-+1:

So i purchased 10 litres from Powells and used it in my second generation.....the whole thing did not bubble or fizz, it's just a black pit!! What I did (which is the same as my first generation except for the molasses brand/supplier);

Temp 28-30c
6lt's Powells Molasses
5kg Sugar
Water 40lt - bulk spring water adjusted to about ph of 5
Dunder - 5 litres
Put all back on on lees
80gms red star bakers yeast

It's day 5 and there is no activity at all. I believe it is the molasses but could it be something else? Maybe nutrients? ~x(

[Whiskyaugogo]

So, interesting experiment..

I setup 2 ferments; 1 with the stock-feed (90c per litre) molasses and 1 with the "premium" product ($7 per litre) - both were a new batch so no dunder used. Both batches were treated/made exactly the same except for the molasses.

Fermentation - ferment 1; stock-feed molasses. This barley "fizzed" and more or less just sat there for 4 days.
ferment 2; premium molasses. Violent fermentation right up to second day then constant bubbling and fizzing

Distillation - ferment 1; 700ml hearts at approximately 90%
ferment 2; 3.1l hearts at approximately 90%

My conclusion; the stock-feed molasses in the ACT is no good and sort of backs my theory "shit in, shit out". There was a definite taste difference after 24 hours airing as well with the expensive molasses being noticeably smoother.

Does anyone else have a similar experience or is the molasses you all use just great anyway?

[Boc1971]

Greetings all , just running this wash through my still for the first time , made some rum years ago with a different recipe , and was a little different , so this brings my questions

Has anyone added caramelized sugar to the final product to add flavor and colour ?
do you carbon filter the spirit ?

thanks

[Andy]

Greetings all , just running this wash through my still for the first time , made some rum years ago with a different recipe , and was a little different , so this brings my questions

Has anyone added caramelized sugar to the final product to add flavor and colour ? Yes. its up to you if you do or not. people add all sorts of things
do you carbon filter the spirit ? nope

thanks