Kale neutral.

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Re: Kale neutral.

Postby EziTasting » Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:03 am

It’s EC1118!
Slower than a wet weekend.... it’s a good yeast but soooo slooooo
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Re: Kale neutral.

Postby dazzerthemighty » Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:25 am

EziTasting wrote:It’s EC1118!
Slower than a wet weekend.... it’s a good yeast but soooo slooooo

:text-+1:
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Re: Kale neutral.

Postby Professor Green » Mon Mar 30, 2020 2:01 pm

:text-+1: on EC1118 being super slow.
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Re: Kale neutral.

Postby googe » Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:22 pm

there ya go lol.
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Re: Kale neutral.

Postby Maxxx » Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:27 pm

If you add 5 tablespoons of Fermaid A to a 200 litre kale wash it will give your fast fermenting rum wash a run for its money...
No bad flavours either....
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Re: Kale neutral.

Postby bigadz » Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:44 pm

I typically get a TPW following the calculators recipe to ferment 200L in 2 weeks using ec1118.

2 weeks I can deal with but it's been about 6 weeks and only just hit 1.020!
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Re: Kale neutral.

Postby bigadz » Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:56 pm

Maxxx wrote:If you add 5 tablespoons of Fermaid A to a 200 litre kale wash it will give your fast fermenting rum wash a run for its money...
No bad flavours either....


Hey Maxxx sorry I didn't see this! I pulled the pin on this 200L and will run it this weekend as is but threw down another 200L using a mix of Fermaid O (what I have) and DAP, 3tbs and 2tbs.

See how that goes!
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Re: Kale neutral.

Postby Maxxx » Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:00 pm

bigadz wrote:
Maxxx wrote:If you add 5 tablespoons of Fermaid A to a 200 litre kale wash it will give your fast fermenting rum wash a run for its money...
No bad flavours either....


Hey Maxxx sorry I didn't see this! I pulled the pin on this 200L and will run it this weekend as is but threw down another 200L using a mix of Fermaid O (what I have) and DAP, 3tbs and 2tbs.

See how that goes!


Just watch for PH crash, I normally let it start at whatever it mixes up at- usually 6-7
I don’t usually bother to PH adjust until 48 hrs in, or when it drops down just under 5
I buffer it at this point with oyster shells/ shell grit suspended in an old stocking to stop it dropping too quick and stalling
Cheers
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Re: Kale neutral.

Postby rushn » Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:47 pm

Hey legends. I’ve done a heap of other sugerheads in the past, but I’m having all sorts of issues with my first Kale wash. Put down 25L 10 days ago - 6kg table sugar, 1/2 cup Lowans, 125g frozen Kale simmered in a pot of water for 20 minutes, then strained into the FV (no pulp, just the boilings). Kept between 24 & 28C. 4 days ago, only down to 1.020. I added a teaspoon of DAP. Checked a day later, down to 1.010. Checked two days later and still sitting at 1.010. So today, I made a yeast bomb of another 125g frozen Kale dissolved in hot water, two teaspoons of table sugar, and another 40g Lowans. Let sit to rehydrate the yeasties, then stirred into the stalled wash, pulp and all. I’m hoping this works!

Any ideas what I did wrong? Should I have added the whole Kale into the wash instead of just the boilings, as I read somewhere else? I’ve never had an issue with pH, but could the Kale upset this more so than say, a TPW?

TIA
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Re: Kale neutral.

Postby hgwells » Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:54 pm

I’ve always done

5kg sugar (inverted in hot water for 20mins)
200g fresh kale (wizzed in the blender)
90g Lowens yeast

In a 30L fermenter, pitch yeast at 30deg takes 7-10days to ferment out.

Never had one fail, never had to add DAP, I’m in Melb so bit slower at this time of year.

Rack off when fermented out, leave to clear for one or two weeks and run through 5 plates with 500mm packed section for a very clean neutral
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Re: Kale neutral.

Postby DonkeyBrains » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:38 pm

Hi Guys

I have been doing some experimentation with a kale wash but mixing it up with spinach. What I have been doing is doing a rough 75/25 mix and then boiling it for awhile and then hit with a stab mixer and turn it into green juice. I then add the sugar etc. as normal and it has been going off like I have never seen before. I can taste the difference (I think) between it and TPW and I find it less sweet but both are good. My father in law grows spinach and kale so it is free so there is that. I was not prepared for how violent a kale wash is.
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Re: Kale neutral.

Postby Rumblepants » Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:33 pm

Thanks Googe for this recipe. I have just run 35 litres low wines of Kale wash through my CCVM still 90cm of packing refluxed slow and it turned out super clean. I love it will be making this again for sure.

I'm thinking of scaling up and doing two 150 Litre ferments. Any advice?

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Re: Kale neutral.

Postby Rumblepants » Sat Dec 25, 2021 4:30 pm

rushn wrote:Hey legends. I’ve done a heap of other sugerheads in the past, but I’m having all sorts of issues with my first Kale wash. Put down 25L 10 days ago - 6kg table sugar, 1/2 cup Lowans, 125g frozen Kale simmered in a pot of water for 20 minutes, then strained into the FV (no pulp, just the boilings). Kept between 24 & 28C. 4 days ago, only down to 1.020. I added a teaspoon of DAP. Checked a day later, down to 1.010. Checked two days later and still sitting at 1.010. So today, I made a yeast bomb of another 125g frozen Kale dissolved in hot water, two teaspoons of table sugar, and another 40g Lowans. Let sit to rehydrate the yeasties, then stirred into the stalled wash, pulp and all. I’m hoping this works!

Any ideas what I did wrong? Should I have added the whole Kale into the wash instead of just the boilings, as I read somewhere else? I’ve never had an issue with pH, but could the Kale upset this more so than say, a TPW?

TIA


Maybe too much sugar. Recipe uses 5kg. I just got through 6 batches of 25L's using

100g Kale
5kg sugar
90g Lowans

Yeast amount seems like a lot but it worked fine. Super clean tasting Vodka after double distilling through a Pot and CCVM.

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Re: Kale neutral.

Postby Negan » Sun Nov 19, 2023 3:47 pm

After trying TPW, TFFV over the last few months, finally decided to try a 50L wash of the Kale recipe. And i'm only gonna say... Holy shit!!! its already bubbling away nicely after about 30mins. Very impressive. Very keen to see how its turns out once I do a stripping run and reflux run.
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