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Re: Figs

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 1:39 pm
by crow
has anyone had experience with clearing agents . The sediment in this wash is such that any disturbance even syphoning just under the surface stirs every thing up into a hell of a mess . I was hoping to run this stuff tomorrow as it is not in an air tight container and is at a substantial risk of infection , it is a case of when not if

Re: Figs

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 1:56 pm
by BackyardBrewer
Photos man! Photos! We need to see it. :?:
:think:

Can you not grab a pack of gelatine and clear it up? 24-36hrs after you put the gelly in it will pull a huge amount of gunk out and settle pretty firmly to the bottom of a fermenter.

Do you have a second fermenter of the same size? I would sterilise that one, dump a shit load of gelatine dissolved in hot water, and rack into secondary (with the gelatine at the bottom).

That depends on how gunky it is though. Are we talking like tree branch size bits? Will it block a racking tube?

Gelly would pull out yeast and large particulate in no time and is very cost effective. I am speaking as a brewer and what I'd do for beer which is not likely to be as gunky as your figs but technically speaking...Should work the same.

Re: Figs

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 2:15 pm
by crow
cheers BB didn't think of that . I have froze wine to clear it but I don't have the time or space to do that effectively . yes it was choking the siphon hose a bit , I took about 10 or so ltrs out and by then it had become so murky and full of suspended flesh ect that I just thought fuck it not putting that shit in the boiler , never clean the shit out of it . I've been away for a few days and am anxious to get it distilled before an infection can set in . There is an opake look to the surface so I think an infection is imminent and I'll have to move on this if I'm to run it before it spoils I've got gelatine I think I'll give that a go right now . EDIT : Thanks for that idea seems to be working already :D , be neat if I can run this tomorrow should have been done friday

Re: Figs

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 3:34 pm
by BackyardBrewer
Yet another example of the supermarket being the friend of distillers and brewers :D

Do you know what a HBS charge for 'finings' and 'clearing agents' compared to a pack of gelatine from the supermarket?

:laughing-rolling:

Anyhooooo - glad whacking a bit of gelly in seems to be helping. You wait, 24 hours or so and the big bits will drop out of suspension nicely.

Cheers!

PS: Where's our photos! I have a fig tree and I'm hanging to see your wash!

Re: Figs

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 3:45 pm
by crow
ok well the wash looked great Friday hopefully tomorrow it will look ok still worried an infection has started . This wouldn't of happened if some prick didn't knock off all my old beer brewing fermenters . I've got 2 left but they have rum washes in them otherwise I'd never had used these bloody dodgy bins . I'll take some happy snaps of the fermenting washes with caps punch the cap down and take another , just give me a couple of hrs and I'll post some up here

Re: Figs

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 2:39 pm
by crow
UPDATE : ok the gel half worked , racked off half with a drum pump . I ran 2/3rds of the sludge through fly wire and the really thick shit is in a doona sack hanging from a ladder straining . This stuff I'll bottle and tip in the next run as the still is firing up to strip now , plus the keg is as full as you'd want it anyway (3 to 4" from the flange) . Now should already asked this : For the stripping run with this stuff I just want to fun it as fast as I can is that correct

Re: Figs

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 3:54 pm
by SBB
croweater wrote: For the stripping run with this stuff I just want to fun it as fast as I can is that correct


Never dealt with figs but Id say yes.

Re: Figs

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 5:11 pm
by crow
:-w :whistle: :!! :confusion-waiting: :problem: Said before and I'll say it again man I need a bigger burner

Re: Figs

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 5:44 pm
by crow
took a picture of the fig sludge staining though fly wire , the wine was the colour of camel piss or for the westies swan gold , didn't try it but I'll hazard a guess that it tasted better than Swan . The still in what passes for a shed here getting ready to strip .

Figs

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:15 pm
by BackyardBrewer
As a man with a freaking huge fig tree myself I look forward to reports, progress and more photos!

Re: Figs

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:18 pm
by Kimbo
croweater wrote:took a picture of the fig sludge staining though fly wire , the wine was the colour of camel piss or for the westies swan gold . The still in what passes for a shed here getting ready to strip

Hey Crow, are you gunna keep that sludge to pitch the next batch onto?
or start a new one?

Re: Figs

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:32 pm
by crow
Kimbo wrote:
croweater wrote:took a picture of the fig sludge staining though fly wire , the wine was the colour of camel piss or for the westies swan gold . The still in what passes for a shed here getting ready to strip

Hey Crow, are you gunna keep that sludge to pitch the next batch onto?
or start a new one?

got 2 more on the go now . I don't trust the spurious yeasts in this or the next so the last one I might . I may use the dunder if I can clear it enough

Re: Figs

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:33 pm
by crow
ok well this is what I've done so far : I collected about 250mm that is fore shots for certain ,am now collecting the very start of the heads ABV has gone from 60 to 50% I expect it will say there for the most of the run . Distillate is ice cold but I figure that's because of the over the top Leibig . Temp is 91' about normal for how this still has ran in the past . Just a quick question why have I got ss mesh stuffed up the Liebig , I know I'm suppose to to improve its performance but what does it do ? EDIT ok through most if not all the heads now .... Drum roll .. this stuff is nice like it is , if a spirit run is going to improve it its going to be something out of the box I can tell you :handgestures-thumbupleft: . To tell the truth I was VERY lacking in confidence last night and today what with the start of an infection and all the bloody fines rising as soon as I touched it , its been more fucking around than anything I've ever brewed before but I now think this slop is going to pay huge divot ends in regards to taste

Re: Figs

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:48 pm
by Cane Toad
It 'disrupts' the vapor or some such,giving better knockdown from vapour to liquid,I think 8-}

Re: Figs

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 8:28 pm
by crow
My unfinished stripping parrot Imageat work

Re: Figs

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:02 pm
by Sam.
Looks functional enough for me :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Figs

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:05 pm
by crow
:icon-lol: :icon-lol: ran out of time got the last bit soldered 10 min. before the foreshots started :roll: . I will cut 1 1/2" off the bottom when I get a cap , want my 2 cent piece back still legal tender in a bank ya know EDIT finished was going to take down to 15 ABV and just on that I ran out of gas , yeah done :)) . I'll have check how much I got in the morning

Re: Figs

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 4:41 am
by R-sole
Don't throw away all that foreshot. Do your cuts on the spirit run. It's just a waste.

Re: Figs

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 7:48 am
by wynnum1
Does bentonite work.

Re: Figs

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 11:15 am
by crow
Ok I was worried I'd have a lot of methanol but it was not much different to rum or TPW maybe less . It was the only cut I bothered with . EDIT well that's stuff it , one to many frosts figs are kaput might get 1/3rd of a bucket if I'm lucky which I ain't . I might have 20 odd kgs left in the fridge to do and that's it so I'll get another 200ltrs of wash to run including was I have brewing and thats it . PS got around 10ltrs of low wines last night .